Huge long shot but can anyone identify this water tank or give a rough age?

Watertankquery

coffeehound wrote: »

What broke exactly?

The hot water cylinder which used economy 7 didn't work from the commencement of the tenancy until the seventh week. The landlady first sent round an electrician that insisted the entire water tank had to be replaced when the landlady refused he said she'd asked him instead to switch the wires on the water tank. I don't quite understand this but he said there was two tanks within the water cylinder and the immersion heater worked so he'd switch the wires over.

This failed a day later and then after another week the landlady got anther electrician who said the thermostat was faulty and replaced it.

Cakeguts

So it wasn't the cylinder that broke it was the means of heating the water in the cylinder that was the problem?

AnotherJoe

And did that fix it ? If so, she was right the hot water cylinder (not tank, stop calling it a tank) didn't need replacing.

Are you looking for recompense for lack of hot water ? If so should t there simply be some agreed recompense per week rather than an argument how old the cylinder was or whose fault it was it broke? And that's what you should be arguing in court about not the ridiculous comment about "ripping her defence to shreds".

You could be very factual, no hot water for 7 weeks, you'd like £50 a week ( or whatever) for that after say the first week.

Watertankquery

Cakeguts wrote: »

So it wasn't the cylinder that broke it was the means of heating the water in the cylinder that was the problem?

Yes: although beyond that level of technical knowledge I am clueless.

G_M

Yes. Nothing wrong with the cylinder itself.

It is the emmersion heater that is the problem. This is an electrical heating element which is usually inserted from the top (as I said earlier - looks from your picture like it is missing now).

Some of them are double elements: a long one to heat the whole cylinder and a short one just to heat the water at the top of the cylinder (cheaper than heating the whole tank.

see
http://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/immersion-heaters/cat830986

I assume the emmersion heater is a secondary means of heating the water? There is also a boiler yes?

Watertankquery

There is no boiler just the hot water cylinder. There is a short one to heat the whole cylinder but because of the poor quality picture it's not visible.

Watertankquery

AnotherJoe wrote: »

And did that fix it ? If so, she was right the hot water cylinder (not tank, stop calling it a tank) didn't need replacing.

Are you looking for recompense for lack of hot water ? If so should t there simply be some agreed recompense per week rather than an argument how old the cylinder was or whose fault it was it broke? And that's what you should be arguing in court about not the ridiculous comment about "ripping her defence to shreds".

You could be very factual, no hot water for 7 weeks, you'd like £50 a week ( or whatever) for that after say the first week.

Okay my comment might have been a bit immature but I'd broken my argument down like this:
1. State what happens
2. Provide evidence
3. Then pick apart her defense (which is an absolute mess which is easily disprovable.

I am claiming rent paid for every week that there wasn't hot water nor heating minus the first week in order to be reasonable.

I am aware that before taking possession of the property that it was unoccupied for 8 months could that have contributed to the hot water cylinder not working?

G_M

Watertankquery wrote: »

There is no boiler just the hot water cylinder. There is a short one to heat the whole cylinder but because of the poor quality picture it's not visible.

So is she claiming to have replaced the hot water cylinder 10 years ago?
Or the hot water tank (probobly in attic) if there is one?
Or the emmersion heater element?

If the element, impossible to guess the age by looking at the cylinder!

G_M

Watertankquery wrote: »

Okay my comment might have been a bit immature but I'd broken my argument down like this:
1. State what happens
2. Provide evidence
3. Then pick apart her defense (which is an absolute mess which is easily disprovable.

I am claiming rent paid for every week that there wasn't hot water nor heating minus the first week in order to be reasonable.

I am aware that before taking possession of the property that it was unoccupied for 8 months could that have contributed to the hot water cylinder not working?

So during the weeks tere was no hot water, you were not provided with a roof over your head?
Your rent covers more than just hot water, and if you had a place to live, then you owe rent!

There are processes for enforcing repairs. Have you followed them?

What steps did you take? What action did she take? What did the Environmental Health Officer say? Has the property been served with an 'Improvement Notice'?

Certainly the LL as a duty to repair the hot water/heating system, and in the meantime should provide alternatives eg electric heaters - have you requested these?

But witholding rent puts you in rent arrears...........

Watertankquery

AnotherJoe wrote: »

And did that fix it ? If so, she was right the hot water cylinder (not tank, stop calling it a tank) didn't need replacing.

Are you looking for recompense for lack of hot water ? If so should t there simply be some agreed recompense per week rather than an argument how old the cylinder was or whose fault it was it broke? And that's what you should be arguing in court about not the ridiculous comment about "ripping her defence to shreds".

You could be very factual, no hot water for 7 weeks, you'd like £50 a week ( or whatever) for that after say the first week.

G_M wrote: »

So is she claiming to have replaced the hot water cylinder 10 years ago?
Or the hot water tank (probobly in attic) if there is one?
Or the emmersion heater element?

If the element, impossible to guess the age by looking at the cylinder!

A two points she claims it was replaced:

1." The property was completely gutted then refurbished, rewired and new central heating put in 14 years ago. "

2. "The water heater had been replaced along with all the piping and wiring when the whole house was refurbished 15 years ago.

The flat is ground story and has only the hot water cylinder.