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Debt solutions company still chasing for debt recovery of PCN

So,

I've read through all the newbies threads and taken reasonable actions in the process of receiving these letters from TNC a debt solutions company.

I received a windscreen PCN early 2016, after the ticket I rang the company issuing the ticket and he rang me back off a mobile and was offering a significantly reduced payment to pay early which immediately raised alarm bells that this wasn't legit and was after any money they could get. After looking into it online, it seems he's a bit of a rogue guy and notorious for bullish antics. From the 2 phone calls, not further communication was made by either myself or them and considered it dropped. I then received a NTK from a debt solutions company TNC of which I've since received 3 letters demanding the monies, on the back of their letters some stating I would be put down a bad debtor should I not pay, adding additional fees for 'double recovery', the latest letter stating legal action to be taken should we not pay in 7 days.
After the 2nd letter (both letters received as NTK and received at the start of November) I did my research and found that under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 they had not issued me with a NTK within 56 days of the alleged event, and since not identifying the driver, I then disclaimed their threats as keepers liability had been lost. The letters stated appeals were to be made direct to the company that issued the PCN and should the appeal be unsuccessful a POPLA code would be provided. So I put all the above in a letter to said company giving them 14 days to respond to my points raised, also obtained proof of postage. In my letter I didn't really appeal the PCN I just disclaimed it, but I had no response to the letter. Ive since received another from TNC stating legal action to be advised to client should I not pay in 7 days. They have also somehow got hold of my mobile number and keep ringing (Ive not entered into any communication with TNC).

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on what to do next, do I just keep ignoring these threats and wait to see if these unlikely court action letters come through...

Thanks in advance!
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    edited 17 December 2016 at 7:17PM
    I then received a NTK from a debt solutions company TNC of which I've since received 3 letters demanding the monies, on the back of their letters some stating I would be put down a bad debtor should I not pay, adding additional fees for 'double recovery', the latest letter stating legal action to be taken should we not pay in 7 days.
    After the 2nd letter (both letters received as NTK and received at the start of November) I did my research and found that under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 they had not issued me with a NTK within 56 days of the alleged event, and since not identifying the driver, I then disclaimed their threats as keepers liability had been lost.
    Agreed - but that doesn't help you if you admitted to driving when you rang (should NEVER have rang). Hope you did not ID the driver?
    They have also somehow got hold of my mobile number and keep ringing
    Presumably because you rang the original dodgy company, they got your number and passed it to TNC. That debt company are nothing to worry about but you need to email them and state that the phone calls are being logged and you consider this harassment, not least because the NTK was served too late to hold you liable as keeper and because DVLA data has been shared and processed without reasonable cause.
    do I just keep ignoring these threats and wait to see if these unlikely court action letters come through...
    Yes. You can find a PPC's likelihood of court, by Googling 'BMPA insight' and the name or acronym of the PPC. Who is it?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • pappa_golf
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    OK , crystal ball has broken WHICH parking company?
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  • NCL5a
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    edited 17 December 2016 at 8:20PM
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Agreed - but that doesn't help you if you admitted to driving when you rang (should NEVER have rang). Hope you did not ID the driver?

    Presumably because you rang the original dodgy company, they got your number and passed it to TNC. That debt company are nothing to worry about but you need to email them and state that the phone calls are being logged and you consider this harassment, not least because the NTK was served too late to hold you liable as keeper and because DVLA data has been shared and processed without reasonable cause.

    Yes. You can find a PPC's likelihood of court, by Googling 'BMPA insight' and the name or acronym of the PPC. Who is it?

    I can't remember exactly what was said on the phone with it being so long ago, I wasn't clued up on how to go about it, and thought it was unreasonable of their £100 charge. Even so, if they had record of this, they wouldn't be requesting for the keeper to name the driver in their NTK letters. I made the phone call, however the cars registered in my dad’s name, and it is his mobile number they are calling now.

    I did state in my letter to the issuing parking company that they were misusing my information obtained from the DVLA and passing it onto a third party without my consent since the NTK was issued too late to hold the keeper liable. I also stated any further communication from TNC would be considered as harassment and the police would be notified.

    Another thing to note, the full PCN was £100 and not since gone up with admin costs from TNC. But when i go onto the company issuing the tickets website where you would usually pay the parking charge, I can see the pictures taken on the event date of the car and the balance still states the reduced rate initially offered to me on the phone for £40, what would happen if I were to just pay it, would the whole matter be settled? Or would TNC still chase addition costs.

    The issuing of the ticket company is Autosec.
  • Umkomaas
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    and the balance still states the reduced rate initially offered to me on the phone for £40, what would happen if I were to just pay it, would the whole matter be settled?
    Nope, they'd trouser your £40 then hassle you even more (cos you're a 'payer') for the balance.

    Who exactly is receiving the letters from the parking company - you, or your father?

    You need to tell us who the parking company is.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • NCL5a
    NCL5a Posts: 8 Forumite
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    Nope, they'd trouser your £40 then hassle you even more (cos you're a 'payer') for the balance.

    Who exactly is receiving the letters from the parking company - you, or your father?

    You need to tell us who the parking company is.

    The letters are being received in my dads name, I'm fighting the cause though as he's not clued up on the situation like I am... The parking company is Autosec.
  • pappa_golf
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    sit back , the company will be no more before the start a court case , PS: in the last 4 yrs they have started ZERO , NONE ZILCH court cases
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  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    http://www.autosec.co/

    another company stating that the drivers details MUST be enclosed or they will refuse an appeal

    OP , please ask the BPA if this is acceptable under the BPA code of practice ?
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  • NCL5a
    NCL5a Posts: 8 Forumite
    edited 17 December 2016 at 8:18PM
    pappa_golf wrote: »
    sit back , the company will be no more before the start a court case , PS: in the last 4 yrs they have started ZERO , NONE ZILCH court cases

    Really appreciate these speedy responses so thank you!! I'm getting a load of earache as he's panicking just as most people do with these threats.

    Should I send a letter to either of the companies now then? Seen as no response was made to my initial letter to Autosec?
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    NO do not send any letters ,did you recieve a POPLa code from them?
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