Manager has openly criticised me on Facebook

Undervalued

aife wrote: »

I can't believe people here are defending this !!!!!! of a manager
This is NOT a professional way to behave.
If an employer has concerns about an employee they need to approach them at work , not go airing it in a public forum
Imagine if everyone behaved like this

I don't think anybody has suggested it is a professional way to behave!

However that doesn't, in itself, make it unlawful or actionable. Having a rant about it or, as you have done, describing the manager as an "*&%$hole" doesn't actually solve anything!

TELLIT01

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In the example you give of people being dismissed for making honest criticism of their employers then if that is all there is to it then I do think that it is absolutely disgusting for people to be dismissed.

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It does happen, and probably more often than many of us realise. It comes down to making statements which can be considered damaging to the company, or bringing the company into disrepute. Statements which are wholly accurate and factual can easily be deemed to fit either category by the employer, resulting in dismissal for Gross Misconduct. Whether they are true or not is irrelevant.
There have been high profile cases where senior people in the medical world have lost their jobs for being critical of the way hospitals are run, even warnings about terrible cleanliness issues. They might eventually get compensation, but not before their reputation has been ruined.

moneyistooshorttomention

Well - for all we know the b*tching by manager was just their personal opinion (ie they weren't entitled to express it anyway).

Actually - this sort of action by the manager is likely to boomerang back and hit him on the behind.

Think of it this way - anyone considering applying to the firm concerned for a job might think twice about being employed by someone like him. Then there's the fact that he's obviously not "the brightest button in the box" and I would worry about the future of any firm run by him. Add the fact that, in trying to "dish" OP's reputation - it is making it more difficult for OP to find another job and therefore manager has kicked their own behind by ensuring that OP is less likely to hand in their notice (ie courtesy of lowered chances of getting a replacement job elsewhere).

All round - that manager sounds both b*tchy and thick as two short planks.

PersianCatLady

aife wrote: »

I can't believe people here are defending this !!!!!! of a manager
This is NOT a professional way to behave.
If an employer has concerns about an employee they need to approach them at work , not go airing it in a public forum
Imagine if everyone behaved like this

Nobody did defend the manager but if what he said was so awful why did the OP decline the opportunity to show us just what a tyrant his manager is??

Onemanarmy

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Well - for all we know the b*tching by manager was just their personal opinion (ie they weren't entitled to express it anyway).

Actually - this sort of action by the manager is likely to boomerang back and hit him on the behind.

Think of it this way - anyone considering applying to the firm concerned for a job might think twice about being employed by someone like him. Then there's the fact that he's obviously not "the brightest button in the box" and I would worry about the future of any firm run by him. Add the fact that, in trying to "dish" OP's reputation - it is making it more difficult for OP to find another job and therefore manager has kicked their own behind by ensuring that OP is less likely to hand in their notice (ie courtesy of lowered chances of getting a replacement job elsewhere).

All round - that manager sounds both b*tchy and thick as two short planks.

I think that's a very accurate summation of the situation.

A further issue now is that I've applied for a job and been offered an interview but I was told on the phone that I would need a reference from my current employer, which I wouldn't know how to obtain because I've not seen my manager since the Facebook post so I've not had a chance to discuss it.

Onemanarmy

PersianCatLady wrote: »

Nobody did defend the manager but if what he said was so awful why did the OP decline the opportunity to show us just what a tyrant his manager is??

The honest answer to that is I don't want to fall into the same trap as my manager and give away enough details that would indicate that it's me who's writing about them.

moneyistooshorttomention

PersianCatLady wrote: »

Nobody did defend the manager but if what he said was so awful why did the OP decline the opportunity to show us just what a tyrant his manager is??

Maybe because OP doesn't wish to "fall for that one" - ie of putting that post up publicly themselves and providing the manager with a chance to complain that OP had done that (yep......even though the manager was the one that started that - so couldn't, in fairness, complain about it being re-posted by OP).

But, as we've already noted, that manager doesn't have much of a sense of fairness - so would feel quite entitled (even though they aren't) to complain if OP re-posted.

Personally - I urge OP not to fall for it and not to re-post it. I think it's just idle curiosity that any other posters are requesting it be re-posted - and not showing any concern for OP's welfare.

PersianCatLady

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Well - for all we know the b*tching by manager was just their personal opinion (ie they weren't entitled to express it anyway).

Actually - this sort of action by the manager is likely to boomerang back and hit him on the behind.

Think of it this way - anyone considering applying to the firm concerned for a job might think twice about being employed by someone like him. Then there's the fact that he's obviously not "the brightest button in the box" and I would worry about the future of any firm run by him. Add the fact that, in trying to "dish" OP's reputation - it is making it more difficult for OP to find another job and therefore manager has kicked their own behind by ensuring that OP is less likely to hand in their notice (ie courtesy of lowered chances of getting a replacement job elsewhere).

All round - that manager sounds both b*tchy and thick as two short planks.

For all we know the OP could be a nightmare employee and the manager just wants him to walk away from the company.


Or the manager could have just said something that was perfectly true like "the OP is always late" or "the OP spends half of his day on social media".


Or the manager could just be an a***hole.


Without seeing the post about the OP, we don't know.


Either way the manager can't be that stupid, he still owns the company whereas the OP has got to either work somewhere with a nasty atmosphere or resign from his job.

PersianCatLady

Onemanarmy wrote: »

I think that's a very accurate summation of the situation.

A further issue now is that I've applied for a job and been offered an interview but I was told on the phone that I would need a reference from my current employer, which I wouldn't know how to obtain because I've not seen my manager since the Facebook post so I've not had a chance to discuss it.

Good I am so glad that you have been offered another job as the current one is not the job for you, regardless of fairness.


In your position I would telephone the manager and say something like -


"I have decided that this job role is not working out as well as I hoped that it might and for that reason I have decided to seek employment elsewhere. I am prepared to work out my notice as I do not want to leave you in the lurch but I would however appreciate it if you could write me an accurate reference for my potential new employer."


Chances are that you old boss wants you to leave any way otherwise he wouldn't have been so mean to you.


Therefore it is in his interest to write you an accurate reference so you leave and part ways.


Personally I would not mention the Facebook thing at all unless he fails to give you an accurate and fair reference.


Also just to check, is it possible to find the Facebook post by searching for your by name??


I am asking this because I would hate for this new boss to research you and find it online.

Onemanarmy

PersianCatLady wrote: »

For all we know the OP could be a nightmare employee and the manager just wants him to walk away from the company.


Or the manager could have just said something that was perfectly true like "the OP is always late" or "the OP spends half of his day on social media".


Or the manager could just be an a***hole.


Without seeing the post about the OP, we don't know.


Either way the manager can't be that stupid, he still owns the company whereas the OP has got to either work somewhere with a nasty atmosphere or resign from his job.

In my most recent monthly review I was considered to have a really positive impact since my arrival and the only complaints made about me were small things that I'm improving on whilst I work and gain more experience.

I see your point of view but I'm an honest, proud hard working person and I do my best to not let anyone down. That's why I was surprised to see the post because if I didn't care and make sacrifices to try and develop and be the best at my job then I wouldn't give a damn about what's been said about me on Facebook.