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Caught driving without insurance

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  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    Conor wrote: »
    I know what to do...let him get the punishment he deserves for knowingly driving whilst banned.

    Changing your statement may get him off the TWOC charge but he'll still be in court for disqual driving and no insurance.

    As for getting a slap on the wrist, you may just get that or you may get 6 points which will up your insurance, and a three figure fine.

    And (although I don't know what you do for a living) it will make it more difficult to get certain jobs!

    A caution is a slap on the wrist but you will effectively be admitting you lied first time around and may well get more than this.

    It isn't just about HIM!!!! For goodness sake, you are entitled to tell them that YOU don't want to, nor should have to, pay for his mistakes! If it comes to it, tell them YOU are looking out for YOU as every human being is entitled to and if they don't like it then they can shove off as they are obviously not the friends you thought they were!

    They are in the wrong here, along with him, so you should be the one sending them on a guilt trip for trying to get you to take the rap!!!

    Take the focus off him - you deserve their thoughts as well!!!
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    Conor wrote: »
    Changing your statement may get him off the TWOC charge but he'll still be in court for disqual driving and no insurance.

    Not if she changes what she says she is changing it won't.

    She says they only want her to change that she did not know he was disqualified. :confused: WHY? I don't know.

    Whether she knew he was disqualified or not she did not give him permission to take the car out. So the TWOC (if such a thing exists in Scotland) will still stand.

    None of this makes any sense.

    OP, (that's you Claire) This is what you do

    You tell them "you will not lie to the police or under oath, you WILL NOT DO IT - and if they were your friends they would not ask you to do it."

    As it stands if you tell them that and they can't get it past their thick heads and they get all mouthy with you, then forget them, move on, they are not worth bothering with.
  • Conor_3
    Conor_3 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    Hear hear.
  • Thanks to all for your advice.
    I tried calling the police yesterday, to see what i could do, but the policewoman said that because hes pled guilty the case is closed, and if i change my statement in anyway i could get charged. I asked why hes being charged with theft because i DID give him the keys, she said its because i said i didnt give him permission to drive.
    (oh and btw its my birthday today but because of all this i feel like !!!!)

    Claire
    xx
  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    Conor wrote: »
    .... or you may get 6 points which will up your insurance, and a three figure fine.

    For what offence? :confused:

    Three-figure fine? Well, that's not a completely made-up guess, is it? :rolleyes:

    If you're going to try to help someone, facts would be preferable to the first stuff that makes its way to the front of your brain.

    Happy birthday Claire. :bdaycake: :beer:
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • mattymoo
    mattymoo Posts: 2,417 Forumite
    For what offence? :confused:

    Three-figure fine? Well, that's not a completely made-up guess, is it? :rolleyes:

    If you're going to try to help someone, facts would be preferable to the first stuff that makes its way to the front of your brain.

    Average fine for permitting a vehicle to be driven without insurance is £200. It is unlikely to be in double figures or four figures (unless the OP is a high earner).


    Did I read somewhere Claire that you said the driver was fixing the car for your ex-husband? Does this mean it is his car and therefore his duty to check insurance etc? If so, seems to me you are taking the flack for your ex.
  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    mattymoo wrote: »
    Average fine for permitting a vehicle to be driven without insurance is £200. It is unlikely to be in double figures or four figures (unless the OP is a high earner).

    Can you quote the source of your figure of £200 average?

    There is also no evidence of the OP committing the offence of permitting a vehicle to be driven without insurance. She didn't give him permission to drive it, remember? ;) Handing over the keys so the bloke can work on it is not evidence of this offence.
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • Have you tried informing the Police that you will no longer be a witness and officially withdraw your statement. I don't know the system in Scotland but you can do this in England and Wales.
  • mattymoo
    mattymoo Posts: 2,417 Forumite
    Can you quote the source of your figure of £200 average?

    There is also no evidence of the OP committing the offence of permitting a vehicle to be driven without insurance. She didn't give him permission to drive it, remember? ;) Handing over the keys so the bloke can work on it is not evidence of this offence.

    Trade (insurance) publication or ABI press release, cannot recall which. Insurance industry are not happy that average fine is only £200 insurance related offences and feel it encourages people to take the risk.
  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    mattymoo wrote: »
    Trade (insurance) publication or ABI press release, cannot recall which. Insurance industry are not happy that average fine is only £200 insurance related offences and feel it encourages people to take the risk.

    Ludicrous isn't it? :think: Shall I pay £800 for my car insurance or a £200 fine if I get stopped?
    And they wonder why it happens. :rolleyes:
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
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