Family cant afford Christmas

Pollycat

annandale wrote: »

There wasn't enough info in the opening post apart from them being drinking smoking !!!!less clampitts

Indeed. So lacking in information and clarity one might think it was a MSE dilemma.

LilElvis

How about them asking their families for assistance rather than friends?

Surely grandparents, aunts and uncles would help the children?

annandale

Seriously? People who claim benefits shouldn't smoke or drink alcohol?

If you've paid into the system through taxes if you happen to lose your job you've not to have another alcoholic drink until you find another one?

David Cameron spent 13 grand of taxpayers cash on a wine tasting tour

The mp for the area I live in who thankfully got booted out on his are last year kitted his flat out on taxpayers cash and regularly claimed six figure sums on expenses.

I object to taxpayers cash being used in many more ways than someone on benefits having the odd drink

PeacefulWaters

annandale wrote: »

Seriously? People who claim benefits shouldn't smoke or drink alcohol?

If you've paid into the system through taxes if you happen to lose your job you've not to have another alcoholic drink until you find another one?

David Cameron spent 13 grand of taxpayers cash on a wine tasting tour

The mp for the area I live in who thankfully got booted out on his are last year kitted his flat out on taxpayers cash and regularly claimed six figure sums on expenses.

I object to taxpayers cash being used in many more ways than someone on benefits having the odd drink

Reasonable point.

But should Mr Benefits be drinking rather than sticking money aside for his kids to enjoy Christmas?

Poor_Single_lady

yes let's just send all the children down the mines. Who cares. As long as we are ok in our warm houses with our turkeys paid for by our hard working week. It doesn't matter. Serves them right being born to non working parents. Should have got themselves sorted with middle class families. Silly 7 year olds. No point sending them to school either. Waste of money.

I give up. It's a sad world. Just me and Annandale not punishing the kids it seems. Bitter world. It is Christmas right?

Proxima_Centauri

annandale wrote: »

He also donated 11500 sleeping bags for Manchesters homeless community.

There are about 100 rough sleepers in Manchester. The exact numbers are hard to ascertain, but its certainly not 11 and a half thousand!

thorsoak

annandale wrote: »

Seriously? People who claim benefits shouldn't smoke or drink alcohol?

If you've paid into the system through taxes if you happen to lose your job you've not to have another alcoholic drink until you find another one?

David Cameron spent 13 grand of taxpayers cash on a wine tasting tour

The mp for the area I live in who thankfully got booted out on his are last year kitted his flat out on taxpayers cash and regularly claimed six figure sums on expenses.

I object to taxpayers cash being used in many more ways than someone on benefits having the odd drink

Nobody objects to the "odd drink". It is when the "odd drink" means that a parent is hammering on the door of the local corner shop at 6.55am in the morning, already hung-over, and is coming in for a half bottle of voddy, six cheap ciders - and why aren't there any packs of three sausage rolls coming out of the kitchen "cause the kids can't have anything else for breakfast as I aint got no money for the leccy". The odd drink means that these parents (three families, all related, all "old village families" rely upon everybody else feeding and clothing their children and giving them presents, because "that's the way it is".

Sadly something needs to happen to break this mould. I've happily provided a dinner - someone else gave a tenner so that the mother could cook it (think that the 11 year old twins probably did - mum was pickled, dad busy at the Legion with his brothers) someone else bought presents (not too expensive, otherwise they would have been flogged by the parents - and the 9 year old told us that - not complaining, just explaining :-(

annandale

I didn't say rough sleepers. Reported that he donated them for the homeless community

Proxima_Centauri

annandale wrote: »

I didn't say rough sleepers. Reported that he donated them for the homeless community

Still seems a high number.. 6000 presented themselves to the council as homeless, but they wouldn't all be in need of a sleeping bag.

I guess they could be stockpiling them for future service-users/homeless folk.


The figures you're quoting are correct, though, according to this article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rio-ferdinand-donates-500000-toys-christmas-cash-for-kids-and-the-mission-christmas-appeal-campaign-a7477016.html

thorsoak

annandale wrote: »

Seriously? People who claim benefits shouldn't smoke or drink alcohol?

If you've paid into the system through taxes if you happen to lose your job you've not to have another alcoholic drink until you find another one?

David Cameron spent 13 grand of taxpayers cash on a wine tasting tour

The mp for the area I live in who thankfully got booted out on his are last year kitted his flat out on taxpayers cash and regularly claimed six figure sums on expenses.

I object to taxpayers cash being used in many more ways than someone on benefits having the odd drink

Nobody objects to the "odd drink". It is when the "odd drink" means that a parent is hammering on the door of the local corner shop at 6.55am in the morning, already hung-over, and is coming in for a half bottle of voddy, six cheap ciders - and why aren't there any packs of three sausage rolls coming out of the kitchen "cause the kids can't have anything else for breakfast as I aint got no money for the leccy". The odd drink means that these parents (three families, all related, all "old village families" rely upon everybody else feeding and clothing their children and giving them presents, because "that's the way it is".

Sadly something needs to happen to break this mould. I've happily provided a dinner - someone else gave a tenner so that the mother could cook it (think that the 11 year old twins probably did - mum was pickled, dad busy at the Legion with his brothers) someone else bought presents (not too expensive, otherwise they would have been flogged by the parents - and the 9 year old told us that - not complaining, just explaining :-(