We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Absence from work because of pregnancy but not realising it was caused by pregnancy

Hi


Can anyone clarify how employers are legally allowed to handle absence from work in the early stages of pregnancy before the employer has been informed the absence is caused by pregnancy?


My wife had 2 days leave with sickness before they or we knew she was pregnant and then two doctors appointments (left work for an hour each time) to check baby was ok when we knew. This all happened in the space of about 7 days and before the employer knew she was pregnant. The employer has now been told she is pregnant even though it is still very early on as she cant hide the morning sickness.


Employer is stating she is 'unreliable', in part due to the above sickness. They are saying they can count the absence towards disciplinary action as they did not know she was pregnant at the time even though that was the cause of the absence.


Is it correct that only pregnancy related absence after the employer has been informed of pregnancy is ignored for the purposes of a disciplinary etc?


There is a discrimination argument going on that we need to understand our rights for.


Thanks.
«134

Comments

  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Worked there how long?
  • Weave
    Weave Posts: 178 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Hi Guest101. That's a complex issue that I don't want to address in this specific thread as I know it is affects her situation. She is on a 6 month temp contract that is due for renewal on 01 January. They are not renewing but have stated it is because she is unreliable for being absent which opens the door for discrimination. I know they don't have to give a reason but they have.
  • Can't a company dismiss you/not renew contract for any reason in the first two years?

    HBS x
    "I believe in ordinary acts of bravery, in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another."

    "It's easy to know what you're against, quite another to know what you're for."

    #Bremainer
  • Tigsteroonie
    Tigsteroonie Posts: 24,954 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    But if they have given a reason, and if that reason is discriminatory (if pregnancy illness is being incorrectly counted), then could there be a case for discrimination?

    If they hadn't given a reason, no issue.
    :heartpuls Mrs Marleyboy :heartpuls

    MSE: many of the benefits of a helpful family, without disadvantages like having to compete for the tv remote

    :) Proud Parents to an Aut-some son :)
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    on your other thread you also mentioned that she left work early and went to work late.
    you thought the fact she told them that this was happening made the lateness/absenxe Ok.

    the contract hasn't been renewed for more reasons than morning sickness ( including an unsatisfactory reference)
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    But if they have given a reason, and if that reason is discriminatory (if pregnancy illness is being incorrectly counted), then could there be a case for discrimination?

    If they hadn't given a reason, no issue.
    read the OP's earlier thread.
    the information given here is only part of the story
  • Weave
    Weave Posts: 178 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Spot on Tigsteroonie! They gave a reason when they did not have to.


    Anyone know if they are allowed to count the pregnancy related absence before they were told about it being pregnancy related?
  • Tigsteroonie
    Tigsteroonie Posts: 24,954 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    nannytone wrote: »
    read the OP's earlier thread.
    the information given here is only part of the story
    I do dislike people who drip-feed in multiple threads.
    :heartpuls Mrs Marleyboy :heartpuls

    MSE: many of the benefits of a helpful family, without disadvantages like having to compete for the tv remote

    :) Proud Parents to an Aut-some son :)
  • Tigsteroonie
    Tigsteroonie Posts: 24,954 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Weave wrote: »
    Anyone know if they are allowed to count the pregnancy related absence before they were told about it being pregnancy related?
    Haven't a clue - sorry - both my recent pregnant team members told me very early on [sworn to secrecy] so that any absence would be covered. But if you get a legal/definite answer, I'd be interested to know.
    :heartpuls Mrs Marleyboy :heartpuls

    MSE: many of the benefits of a helpful family, without disadvantages like having to compete for the tv remote

    :) Proud Parents to an Aut-some son :)
  • Weave
    Weave Posts: 178 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Hi Nannytone. We have had a meeting with the employer today and their primary argument is the absence in November which was caused by the pregnancy.


    I have asked this point on a separate thread to try and avoid muddying the waters with the other issues just at this point.


    The point I'm trying to understand now is just this one -


    Anyone know if they are allowed to count the pregnancy related absence before they were told about it being pregnancy related?


    Thanks.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 258.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.