Damage by Sky installer

lstar337

Risteard wrote: »

I never suggested that the Sky installer (who absolutely is not an engineer) was blameless. But it's rich for someone who left it completely in the way to complain about it being damaged/causing damage. They left a potential danger in the vicinity of the work.

To be fair, a lot of things could be classed as a potential danger, where do you draw the line?

I wouldn't move a thing ahead of time, but I would expect an installer to ask me to move things that were in his/her way or were what he thought were dangerous.

Shrimply

Risteard wrote: »

I never suggested that the Sky installer (who absolutely is not an engineer)

How do you know that particular "Sky installer" does not have an engineering degree?

Risteard

Shrimply wrote: »

How do you know that particular "Sky installer" does not have an engineering degree?

It's possible - but that still wouldn't make him a Sky engineer. It might make him an engineer who moonlights as a Sky installer for some bizarre reason. Is he registered with the Engineering Council?

Shrimply

Risteard wrote: »

It's possible - but that still wouldn't make him a Sky engineer. It might make him an engineer who moonlights as a Sky installer for some bizarre reason. Is he registered with the Engineering Council?

I never said Sky engineer And I know nothing about him. I've just learnt not to assume anything about a person from the job they are currently doing.

I knew what you meant and I admit used the wrong word. I just thought it was a bit presumptuous to say he definitely wasn't, although if he was he may have been more likely to have relocated molten wax before he started :rotfl:

Risteard

Shrimply wrote: »

I've just learnt not to assume anything about a person from the job they are currently doing. ... I just thought it was a bit presumptuous to say he definitely wasn't, although if he was he may have been more likely to have relocated molten wax before he started :rotfl:

I was actually going to qualify the statement when I made it initially, but I presumed that in the context it was clear I was referring to his known capacity (of Sky installer) and not his unknown capacity where he is CEng MIET or whatever.

But "LOL" at the "more likely to have relocated molten wax" comment

Doozergirl

Shrimply wrote: »

The OP was not the one doing work that required a clear work area.

Not saying they weren't a bit daft not to move it, but surely the engineer was then equally, if not more daft, to not check and clear the area before he started work.

Some of these things don't look like much or are designed to look like ornaments. If the flame is hidden or there is no flame then he may not have realised what is was and assessed the risk as high as it was. The OP, on the other hand knows exactly what it is and what danger it may present.

So, on balance I think the OP is the one who knows exactly what risk items in their own home might pose to the guy working there, not just their own belongings.

teddysmum

Surely it's dangerous anyway to have a naked flame near to electrical equipment.


If cooled, I think the wax could be easily chipped off the picture frame.

Franz_Ferdinand

Risteard wrote: »

It's possible - but that still wouldn't make him a Sky engineer. It might make him an engineer who moonlights as a Sky installer for some bizarre reason. Is he registered with the Engineering Council?

Probably just an electrician doing the usual half baked job.

phil24_7

Doozergirl wrote: »

For example, burns self on wax from a burner left on near the area he was working in...

His dynamic risk assessment should have picked it up! :rotfl:

Doozergirl

phil24_7 wrote: »

His dynamic risk assessment should have picked it up! :rotfl:

I've made another post suggesting that the object may not be obvious as to what it was or what was happening inside it.

I have no strong opinion either way on this one but I am constantly reading thread right now about how everyone is to blame except the OP.

Whether it's molten wax with no regard to whether the guy suffered any pain, to a plumber not detailing that they make a mess when moving radiators, a tenant wanting to break contract because they suffer an hour of noise from workmen of a morning while works are ongoing or a homebuyer who didn't look at an EPC report for six weeks after making an offer, realises that a graphic was wrong on a property listing and suddenly decides that the EPC is really important.

Does nobody apply common sense or just accept that poo happens sometimes?!