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On-grid domestic battery storage

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  • Netexporter
    Netexporter Posts: 2,237 Forumite
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    Makes going completely off-grid thinkable.
  • Magnitio
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    edited 19 October at 10:21AM
    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • QrizB
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    Magnitio said:
    Someone who has bought one:
    Not sure s/he actually bought it. See this post:
    DATOUBOSS didn’t tell me where this product is actually available to buy.
    OP on that thread hasn't been back to update it since first posting a week+ ago, so we're still waiting on feedback from an owner.
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  • QrizB
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    Someone wrote over on the Energy forum:
    Someone said:
    Before anyone asks it's been reported only this month the Solar & Battery Fires have exceeded the number of new installations for the first time. Agreed that is mostly due to poor installation & Maintenance but the recommendations should be carefully considered. 
    Has anyone seen these statistics in a reliable source? It seems unlikely, but I'm open to be persuaded? 
    @Screwdriva has this appeared anywhere that you read?
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • Netexporter
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    There's been a rash of solar fire videos on Youtube, recently. I suspect this is just the current fossil fuel industry talking point, being spread by the Daily Blackshirt and the former newspaper known as the Telegraph.
  • QrizB
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    edited 19 November at 10:40PM
    Ah, I've turned something up. As you might've guessed, it's not what the Energy poster would have you think.

    UK fire services attended 171 solar-related fires in 2024, up from 107 in 2022, according to analysis by insurer QBE.

    That equates to roughly one fire every two days, even though rooftop installations grew by only 29.6% during that period. Most of these incidents - 97 in 2024 - occurred in homes.

    This has led to concerns that this trend could continue as solar adoption accelerates, with the UK recording a 22% increase in solar panel installations in the first half of 2025, amounting to more than 99,500 new systems.

    So there are almost 200k installations in a year, vs. <200 fires.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • Screwdriva
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    edited 20 November at 11:17AM
    QrizB said:
    @Screwdriva has this appeared anywhere that you read?
    As you have rightly summarized, this would put the Solar industry out of business if it were true/ accurate. In my experience, which is relatively tiny, PV fires stem from cheaply made hardware (lacking the tolerances that good engineering delivers) from unethical brands, installed by cowboys.



    -  10 x 400w LG Bifacial + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial + 2 570W SHARP Bifacial + 5kW SolarEdge Inverter + SolarEdge Optimizers. SE London.

    -  Triple aspect. (33% ENE.33% SSE. 34% WSW)

    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (The most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me for help with any form of energy saving! Happy to help! 
  • debitcardmayhem
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    QrizB said:
    @Screwdriva has this appeared anywhere that you read?
    As you have rightly summarized, this would put the Solar industry out of business if it were true/ accurate. In my experience, which is relatively tiny, PV fires step from cheaply made hardware (lacking the tolerances that good engineering delivers) from unethical brands, installed by cowboys.


    I feel I should concur with your findings 
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  • Heedtheadvice
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    I do concur!
  • orrery
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    There is a known issue with be big clunky isolator switches when used for isolating the DC from the panels. The switches never get turned, so the contacts don't ever get self-cleaned. Eventually they overheat. If the inverter has DC isolators, then it is no longer advised to fit isolator switches. Wise to wait until it is completely dark and then give the idolator switches a few turns off and on.
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