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  • orrery
    orrery Posts: 833 Forumite
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    I must admit, that having two devices which are both trying to control the flow is always going to be problematic. I'd be tempted to disconnect the immersion controller.
    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • 1961Nick said:
    Could something have switched of at 6.30 causing a momentary export before the inverter could ramp down? The Solic jumps in to grab the export & the battery responds by ramping back up again to meet the Solic demand.

    No idea what would cause an export but I have switched the Solic off...
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • orrery said:
    I must admit, that having two devices which are both trying to control the flow is always going to be problematic. I'd be tempted to disconnect the immersion controller.

    Thanks I have turned it off
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • Martyn1981
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    Bit of battery news, but reads like an advert and seems targeted at powercuts, plus I lost interest halfway through ...... but apart from that .......

    Span Partners With LG On Intelligent Breaker Panel & Energy Storage

    Span, maker of the smart electrical panel, has partnered with LG to develop a fully integrated electrical and energy management system for the home. The new offering will integrate Span’s smart panel and LG’s RESU energy storage units to give homeowners unprecedented control over their energy to enable them to use it when the want, how they want.


    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • EVandPV
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    Bit of battery news, but reads like an advert and seems targeted at powercuts, plus I lost interest halfway through ...... but apart from that .......

    Span Partners With LG On Intelligent Breaker Panel & Energy Storage

    Span, maker of the smart electrical panel, has partnered with LG to develop a fully integrated electrical and energy management system for the home. The new offering will integrate Span’s smart panel and LG’s RESU energy storage units to give homeowners unprecedented control over their energy to enable them to use it when the want, how they want.


    Looks like a bit of a Powerwall clone.
    Must admit, I haven't even bothered wiring up the EPS on our system
    Could count on one hand the number of powercuts we've ever had.
    Of course, now that I've said that ....... 

    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • 1961Nick
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    EVandPV said:

    Looks like a bit of a Powerwall clone.
    Must admit, I haven't even bothered wiring up the EPS on our system
    Could count on one hand the number of powercuts we've ever had.
    Of course, now that I've said that ....... 

    It's worth wiring up even if you only add a double socket to the EPS.
    4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North Lincs
    Installed June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400
    Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh
  • 1961Nick said:
    EVandPV said:

    Looks like a bit of a Powerwall clone.
    Must admit, I haven't even bothered wiring up the EPS on our system
    Could count on one hand the number of powercuts we've ever had.
    Of course, now that I've said that ....... 

    It's worth wiring up even if you only add a double socket to the EPS.
    If i was gonna do it, id have to do it wired to a contactor so that the whole house would be powered, and disconnected from the grid or honestly, whats the point?
    Double socket means, what a lamp on an extension?
    My leccy box has 2 "zones" so id need them both active for all lights to be on, which essentially means powering the whole house.

    Ill get round to it one day... probably a couple of days after the first powercut 😳
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 60Kwh storage
  • EVandPV
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    edited 23 February 2020 at 1:11PM
    Zarch said:
    Have joined the club today....... already messing with https://github.com/celsworth/octolux for some overnight Agile API auto-top up!!
    :smiley:
    Nice one !  👍
    What would also be really useful is code that could predict and set how much to grid charge the Pylons based on weather forecast and time of year, similar to the Powerwall.
    Trying to judge this manually gets fairly tedious quite quickly.
    I'm sure some smarter cookie than me will figure it  before long.
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • joefizz
    joefizz Posts: 676 Forumite
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    If you read the pylontech manual,  you will note that at no point does it mention any kind of air gap, and also says they can be put on their side.


    Been away for a couple of weeks but thought Id come back to this.
    Yes you are correct that the manual doesnt mention any air gap. The manual assumes you are using brackets to separate them and the brackets are designed as the air gap. The manual also says you can stack 4 horizontally and 2 vertically.... Read into that what you will.
    The manual also says the batteries should be more than 0.5m from the inverter heat output.. I dont know what the distance you have is from the top of the inverter.
    You look like you have enough room on the shelf to put a bit of an air gap between the batteries. May do nothing but cant hurt and might prolong the life of the batteries somewhat.

    Skimmed through the last 2 weeks posts and someone mentioned operating temperature. The pylontech techincals say around 25C/26C (IIRC dont recall exactly) for optimum operation (which isnt the operating range) so whilst maybe not much appreciable difference, like the air gap thing mentioned above in or around 26C ambient will be the optimum for operation/longevity etc.
    We will only really know (as with any battery product) in 10 years time whether the specs were right or not.
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