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  • EVandPV
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    And this is the main screen ......


    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • Doobedoo
    Doobedoo Posts: 8 Forumite
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    edited 15 February 2020 at 8:25PM
    Thanks. All I get is what you see in that screenshot. Having asked repeatedly why we don’t have a battery level indicator I was told that they were working on it. 4 months later we get that little battery symbol you can see at the top of the left hand column, when I asked why we couldn’t have a percentage indicator this the reply I got.

    The improvement with regards to state of charge is that it is accurate now, and displays correctly. We may look at introducing a percentage state of charge but it is very difficult to accurately predict battery to within a percent.”




  • Essentially you are correct. 
    You can let them fight it out, in which case I *think* the solic will win, until it's full, then batteries will take over.
    That's what's reported by members with sofar, but lux responds quicker I believe. 

    Does anyone have this double setup.. my installers left the "Solic"clip off the incoming grid power so no hot water.  Just re installed it and 3 green lights on the solic suggesting I have power to spare but my import from the grid rises from nothing to 3 KW so something is not right :(
    Any suggestions on how to set this up so it will work?
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • EVandPV
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    Essentially you are correct. 
    You can let them fight it out, in which case I *think* the solic will win, until it's full, then batteries will take over.
    That's what's reported by members with sofar, but lux responds quicker I believe. 

    Does anyone have this double setup.. my installers left the "Solic"clip off the incoming grid power so no hot water.  Just re installed it and 3 green lights on the solic suggesting I have power to spare but my import from the grid rises from nothing to 3 KW so something is not right :(
    Any suggestions on how to set this up so it will work?
    This sounds similar to what's happening with my homebrew arduino immersion controller.
    When my battery inverter is active and is charging/discharging, the immersion controller ct around the grid wire is reading around 3kw no matter how much power is flowing.
    Fortunately this works in my favour as it means the batteries take priority. Once the batteries are fully charged and the inverter goes into standby, the immersion controller ct reads as per normal again and begins heating the water if there's enough surplus pv.
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • EVandPV said:
    Essentially you are correct. 
    You can let them fight it out, in which case I *think* the solic will win, until it's full, then batteries will take over.
    That's what's reported by members with sofar, but lux responds quicker I believe. 

    Does anyone have this double setup.. my installers left the "Solic"clip off the incoming grid power so no hot water.  Just re installed it and 3 green lights on the solic suggesting I have power to spare but my import from the grid rises from nothing to 3 KW so something is not right :(
    Any suggestions on how to set this up so it will work?
    This sounds similar to what's happening with my homebrew arduino immersion controller.
    When my battery inverter is active and is charging/discharging, the immersion controller ct around the grid wire is reading around 3kw no matter how much power is flowing.
    Fortunately this works in my favour as it means the batteries take priority. Once the batteries are fully charged and the inverter goes into standby, the immersion controller ct reads as per normal again and begins heating the water if there's enough surplus pv.

    Will be good if it is just a reading glitch... I will check my main meter readings
    Thanks
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • orrery
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    Does anyone have this double setup.. my installers left the "Solic"clip off the incoming grid power so no hot water.  Just re installed it and 3 green lights on the solic suggesting I have power to spare but my import from the grid rises from nothing to 3 KW so something is not right :(
    Any suggestions on how to set this up so it will work?
    It isn't just the clip on the wrong way round is it? That would have that effect.

    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • orrery said:

    Does anyone have this double setup.. my installers left the "Solic"clip off the incoming grid power so no hot water.  Just re installed it and 3 green lights on the solic suggesting I have power to spare but my import from the grid rises from nothing to 3 KW so something is not right :(
    Any suggestions on how to set this up so it will work?
    It isn't just the clip on the wrong way round is it? That would have that effect.


    Tried both ways... just turned off PV and Solic so recalibrated and looks fine at the moment.. wont be able to tell is its working until the batteries stop taking charge so not likely today
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • orrery said:

    Does anyone have this double setup.. my installers left the "Solic"clip off the incoming grid power so no hot water.  Just re installed it and 3 green lights on the solic suggesting I have power to spare but my import from the grid rises from nothing to 3 KW so something is not right :(
    Any suggestions on how to set this up so it will work?
    It isn't just the clip on the wrong way round is it? That would have that effect.


    Tried both ways... just turned off PV and Solic so recalibrated and looks fine at the moment.. wont be able to tell is its working until the batteries stop taking charge so not likely today

    I do have an issue, seemed to work all day with batteries charging and Solic off,  but when the sun went down I suspect the batteries have emptied themselves into my immersion..... they were at 35% now down at 10% and off...
    Tank full of hot water
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • mickyduck55
    mickyduck55 Posts: 676 Forumite
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    edited 18 February 2020 at 10:37AM
    Now I really do not understand my Solic
    Set the batteries to charge 1-2 am just to see how it worked as no advantage as not on a fancy tariff
    At 6:30 am the Solic sends all power to the immersion !
    Would be sort of logical if it had immediately sent power to heat hot water  No idea why it would wait until 6:30?
    Disconnected until I get a reply from Earthwise with clarification If it wont work its onto eBay.  Maybe I should start a new thread so Im not clogging up this general one?

    Just searched this thread and I am not alone... when I change my tariff I will probably do as others have and remove it in favour of manual operation and or being happy with heating inexpensively overnight and exporting in the day.
    We have an electric shower as well as a "normal" one so maybe its switch over to using that?
    3kW shower for 5 mins got to be better than heating gallons of water just to let most of it cool down as no trickle charge from Solic

    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • 1961Nick
    1961Nick Posts: 2,107 Forumite
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    Could something have switched of at 6.30 causing a momentary export before the inverter could ramp down? The Solic jumps in to grab the export & the battery responds by ramping back up again to meet the Solic demand.
    4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North Lincs
    Installed June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400
    Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh
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