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Are Currys Sim-free iPhones truly sim-free?

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  • Anthorn
    Anthorn Posts: 4,362 Forumite
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    edited 30 November 2016 at 11:50AM
    d123 wrote: »
    Nope, not true.

    An iPhone bought sim free from CarPhoneWarehouse will definitely lock to the first SIM card inserted.

    The warning is at the bottom of every page relating to sim free iPhone on the CPW website.

    It looks like this:

    https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/apple/iphone-6s.html#!colour=gold&capacity=32GB&dealType=sf

    Network supplied stock, for example from EE or Vodafone is locked to the network by Apple and will only accept the applicable sim, no matter what other sim you might insert first.



    Locking due to iCloud or Find my iPhone has got absolutely nothing to do with sim lock on iPhones...

    Contradictory and confused:

    First you say that the iphone will "definitely lock to the first SIM card inserted" but your quote says that "SIM free iPhones can only be used with a UK-network SIM card, and will not accept foreign SIM cards".

    So does that mean that Carphone Warehouse in fact sell and provide sim-free iphones? Or not? Or is it confirmation that a U.K. iPhone can only be used with U.K. network sim cards? In the latter case, reasonable I'd say.

    Where did I say the Find My iPhone locking is a sim lock?

    As I said previously, if you buy an iPhone from a network and/or as part of a tariff deal you can expect it to be locked to that network. If you buy a sim free iPhone and it locks to the first network then return it for refund or replacement. In that case it's not sim free.

    Why is my previous post not true? As I said, Apple save money by not providing phones dedicated to certain networks and retailers by locking to the network of the first sim inserted. The previous posts confirm that.

    lastly, this topic is as I said, very old now: By this time it should be common knowledge that to get a sim-free iPhone you should buy it direct from Apple and pay the full price. That's not to say though that iPhones which should be cheaper from a third-party retailer are actually cheaper: When I bought my iPhone SE direct from Apple it was £20 cheaper than the price charged by Argos!
  • d123
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    edited 30 November 2016 at 11:48AM
    Anthorn wrote: »
    Contradictory and confused:

    First you say that the iphone will "definitely lock to the first SIM card inserted" but your quote says that "SIM free iPhones can only be used with a UK-network SIM card, and will not accept foreign SIM cards".

    So does that mean that Carphone Warehouse in fact sell and provide sim-free iphones? Or not? Or is it confirmation that a U.K. iPhone can only be used with U.K. network sim cards? In the latter case, reasonable I'd say.

    It's not that confusing, it will lock to the first sim inserted, that has to be a UK network sim as it won't activate with anything but a UK network sim. The UK only sim use is also unique to iPhones bought at CPW.

    Where did I say the Find My iPhone locking is a sim lock?

    In your previous post, you tried to muddy the waters by referencing Find my iPhone locking in a conversation about sim locking, where you repeatedly just said "locking", don't try and squirm out now...
    As I said previously, if you buy an iPhone from a network and/or as part of a tariff deal you can expect it to be locked to that network. If you buy a sim free iPhone and it locks to the first network then return it for refund or replacement. In that case it's not sim free.

    Go argue with CPW, they have argued the point for years that sim free just means sold without a sim, they have tricked many buyers over the years who have ended up with locked phones.
    Why is my previous post not true? As I said, Apple save money by not providing phones dedicated to certain networks and retailers by locking to the network of the first sim inserted. The previous posts confirm that.

    Go back and read what you said, and then cross reference the replies to each quoted point and you'll see where you went wrong.
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  • Anthorn
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    d123 wrote: »
    It's not that confusing, it will lock to the first sim inserted, that has to be a UK network sim as it won't activate with anything but a UK network sim. The UK only sim use is also unique to iPhones bought at CPW.

    That's still contradictory and confused
    d123 wrote: »
    In your previous post, you tried to muddy the waters by referencing Find my iPhone locking in a conversation about sim locking, where you repeatedly just said "locking", don't try and squirm out now...

    This discussion is about Currys but you introduced Carphone Warehouse. So are you yourself trying to muddy the waters?
    d123 wrote: »
    Go argue with CPW, they have argued the point for years that sim free just means sold without a sim, they have tricked many buyers over the years who have ended up with locked phones.
    So don't buy from Carphone Warehouse. Simple!
  • d123
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    Anthorn wrote: »
    That's still contradictory and confused

    Only to the easily confused.

    Anthorn wrote: »
    This discussion is about Currys but you introduced Carphone Warehouse. So are you yourself trying to muddy the waters?

    Sigh....


    CPW was first mentioned in post #4. Don't you actually read threads before chucking your 'opinion' in?

    Does it look like my username on post #4?

    Anthorn wrote: »
    So don't buy from Carphone Warehouse. Simple!

    Where did I say I bought anything from CPW? Are you confusing your thoughts of what you think has been said with facts again?
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  • Anthorn
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    d123 wrote: »
    Only to the easily confused.




    Sigh....


    CPW was first mentioned in post #4. Don't you actually read threads before chucking your 'opinion' in?

    Does it look like my username on post #4?




    Where did I say I bought anything from CPW? Are you confusing your thoughts of what you think has been said with facts again?

    Pointless continuing. I won, you lost, bye-bye
  • d123
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    Anthorn wrote: »
    I won, you lost, bye-bye

    Ah, yes, I'd forgotten that you act like a 5 year old when you realise you were wrong and feeling embarrassed.

    Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out

    :rotfl:
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