No advertising consent at Fistral beach ?

Ivor_Pecheque

Wonder if anyone could decipher this.

And is it helpful for the motorist ?

(Reply to FOI requst about the signs and camera)

Good afternoon,



I am writing in connection to the above investigation which has been
completed and I am now in a position to advise as follows.



There are particular advertisements that are permitted, without the
requirement for consent. However in this case the display of the
advertisements do not benefit from exemption or deemed consent under the
Town & Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (England) Regulations
2007, and are therefore unauthorised.



In the absence of consent, regard is given to paragraph 207 of the
National Planning Policy Framework 2012 and the expediency of further
action, whether the signage cause significant harm in planning terms and
any implications to highway safety in order to determine whether it would
be in the public interest to pursue further action.



In this case the summary of case closure is provided below, which reads as
follows:



Case to be closed where a report has been written and it has been
considered that the ANPR cameras and pay and display signage installed for
car park management purposes, are modest in their form and appearance and
do not significantly detract from the character of the area, or
implications to highway safety, to warrant formal enforcement action.



I trust that the above information is of assistance and provides
additional clarification with respect to the planning enforcement
position.



Kind regards,

Redx

same old story then , they flout the law as explained in a few other threads (especially the JLA thread over on pepipoo) and then its down to the council not enforcing the law due to budget cuts

in theory the signage is not lawful , so neither are the pcn,s , yet the treadmill still turns

see the PE one here http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/parking-signs-get-winter-jacket-at-asda.html

Marktheshark

Send an official complaint of misconduct in public office for failing to adhere to statutory legislation.
The act does not offer those enforcing it discretion to consider what is in breech or not, it is legislation, not a have a cup of tea and consider it option.

Make an official complaint and request a deadlock letter for the local government ombudsman.

yotmon

By the sound of it they are saying that the signage does not have planning permission, however, they are not willing to take any action in this case.

So, a case of ignore. Surely, even if it does not 'warrant formal enforcement action', then at the very least they should contact the company responsible for these signs and offer them a limited time period to apply for retrospective PP. If the ppc fails to apply for PP within the set period then formal enforcement action' should be taken.

Anyone know of a court case where the defendant has successfully used 'No Planning Permission' for the signs as a defence ?

Another thing, if they have been placed there illegally, then is it illegal for someone to remove them, as long as they don't cause any damage and don't intend to permanently deprive the owner of their property ?

Ivor_Pecheque

My original question included a query about advertising consent to. Will dig it out when my laptop decides to work again

Redx

LJLA update thread (been going on 4 years if you read the timeline)

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=109259&st=20&start=20

The_Deep

But where does the public interest lie in all this?

What is Council Taxpayers money better spent on, keeping libraries open, maintaining community care, or prosecuting a parking company for minor planning offences?

My local council spends a lot of money on providing interpretors for people who do not speak English. Here in Spain they spend a fortune on keeping the beach spotless. I suppose it depends where you priorities lie.

Johno100

The_Deep wrote: »

But where does the public interest lie in all this?

What is Council Taxpayers money better spent on, keeping libraries open, maintaining community care, or prosecuting a parking company for minor planning offences?

My local council spends a lot of money on providing interpretors for people who do not speak English. Here in Spain they spend a fortune on keeping the beach spotless. I suppose it depends where you priorities lie.

But surely if they prosecute successfully they'll be entitled to recover their costs of enforcement from the PPC, so it will be cost neutral?

peter_the_piper

The_Deep wrote: »

But where does the public interest lie in all this?

What is Council Taxpayers money better spent on, keeping libraries open, maintaining community care, or prosecuting a parking company for minor planning offences?
I suppose it depends where you priorities lie.

Considering the time spent writing a letter (plus stamp) and maybe an hour browsing the retro plans then its a very small cost.

The_Deep

Considering the time spent writing a letter (plus stamp) and maybe an hour browsing the retro plans then its a very small cost.


You have missed the point, I am talking about cost to the taxpayer.

Half_way

Are we talking planning permission fur the signs to be there, or advertising consent for the contents of the signs?