Bradford factor

sangie595

RichardD1970 wrote: »

It's hardly a secret

S squared x D = Score

S is the total number of separate absences by an individual
D is the total number of days of absence of that individual

http://www.bradfordfactorcalculator.com/

But, as I said, there are also other "factors" to consider beyond the pure score. The fact is that any employer is going to be pulling up two consecutive illnesses over the Christmas period. It's exceptionally bad luck to be sick long term over the same period twice running. Hence they will look at the pattern. So the OP either needs to have a very good reason, or don't do this.

xapprenticex

Would be a nice xmas holiday, but I doubt you'd get away with it.

I remember in school, teacher said she wanted my homework in on Friday, I jokingly said i think ill be off ill on Friday, she went berserk.

RichardD1970

sangie595 wrote: »

But, as I said, there are also other "factors" to consider beyond the pure score. The fact is that any employer is going to be pulling up two consecutive illnesses over the Christmas period. It's exceptionally bad luck to be sick long term over the same period twice running. Hence they will look at the pattern. So the OP either needs to have a very good reason, or don't do this.

Totally agree, I've known a couple of blokes get done for "Pattern of Absence" in the past, and it's not necessarily the same time of year/weeks/days off, but anything that can be discerned as a "pattern".

sangie595

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Totally agree, I've known a couple of blokes get done for "Pattern of Absence" in the past, and it's not necessarily the same time of year/weeks/days off, but anything that can be discerned as a "pattern".

Yep - I dismissed someone for exactly this pattern. He was warned after the second "convenient" sickness that the third one would be regarded as gross misconduct. He still did it again! He obviously thought it was a bluff. It wasn't.

Reggie_Rebel

The only way to guarantee to be off at Christmas and still in a job in the New Year is pick up ten yellow cards before 10th December.

Masomnia

sangie595 wrote: »

Yep - I dismissed someone for exactly this pattern. He was warned after the second "convenient" sickness that the third one would be regarded as gross misconduct. He still did it again! He obviously thought it was a bluff. It wasn't.

Haha, remind me never to mess with you!

A colleague of mine once had a case where this guy was having frequent odd days and they realised that each one followed the day after a certain horse racing meeting. Disciplinary followed!

allyminimum

Hi
My company has introduced the bradford factor in the last 2 months without any letters or communication with the staff. I work part time 4 days a week and after a 3 week absence due to a hernia operation I was called in for a back to work interview. I was told then that the bradford factor had been introduced and my company said they were basing their points on the last 18 months. I understood it was based on a 12 month period. Anyway I was told in the last 18 months I'd had 6 days off one day at a time and 15 days off after my operation making a total of 21 days and 7 absences.
Can anyone please advise me if my company can do this over an 18 month period or should they have done it over a 12 month period? Also if I work 4 days part time a week are my days off after my operation 12 days or 15 days ?
Thanks for any help
Ally

TELLIT01

I can only assume the Bradford factor either wasn't in use at my last place or wasn't applied effectively. We had 2 sisters whose sickness always seemed to fall on a Friday and/or Monday, generally coinciding with posts on social media saying they were going on the razz or had been on the razz. Everybody knew what they were doing, but nothing every happened to them.

hyubh

sangie595 wrote: »

Yep - I dismissed someone for exactly this pattern. He was warned after the second "convenient" sickness that the third one would be regarded as gross misconduct. He still did it again! He obviously thought it was a bluff. It wasn't.

A slightly curious anecdote, one might think, for an individual currently one third on the way to being off sick for over 9 weeks (post #5). Perhaps the advice to the OP is therefore, become a union official...?

sangie595

allyminimum wrote: »

Hi
My company has introduced the bradford factor in the last 2 months without any letters or communication with the staff. I work part time 4 days a week and after a 3 week absence due to a hernia operation I was called in for a back to work interview. I was told then that the bradford factor had been introduced and my company said they were basing their points on the last 18 months. I understood it was based on a 12 month period. Anyway I was told in the last 18 months I'd had 6 days off one day at a time and 15 days off after my operation making a total of 21 days and 7 absences.
Can anyone please advise me if my company can do this over an 18 month period or should they have done it over a 12 month period? Also if I work 4 days part time a week are my days off after my operation 12 days or 15 days ?
Thanks for any help
Ally

it's up to the employer what policy they adopt.