Bradford factor

Loukousmith

Hi, can anyone tell me how this works.. Was off work last year and came back on the 3rd January, I ended up getting a disciplinary which has now fell off.. My question is, if I go on the sick just now and come back after th 3rd January will I still be over my points? Ie will last years sickness still count or will it have fallen off?

sangie595

Loukousmith wrote: »

Hi, can anyone tell me how this works.. Was off work last year and came back on the 3rd January, I ended up getting a disciplinary which has now fell off.. My question is, if I go on the sick just now and come back after th 3rd January will I still be over my points? Ie will last years sickness still count or will it have fallen off?

It's the 21st November, and you know that you are going to contract a sickness that will last until 3rd January?

Loukousmith

Not asking to be judged, just advice

Undervalued

Loukousmith wrote: »

Not asking to be judged, just advice

Well the advice is simple....

If you are too ill to go to work and the doctor signs you off then you will have to deal with any resulting consequences once you are better.

If you are not too ill then you go to work.

It is exactly because some people play the system that the Bradford factor and similar systems have been developed. Your post gives the strong impression that is exactly what you are hoping to do. If not, then perhaps if you explain the circumstances in more detail we can help.

sangie595

Undervalued wrote: »

Well the advice is simple....

If you are too ill to go to work and the doctor signs you off then you will have to deal with any resulting consequences once you are better.

If you are not too ill then you go to work.

It is exactly because some people play the system that the Bradford factor and similar systems have been developed. Your post gives the strong impression that is exactly what you are hoping to do. If not, then perhaps if you explain the circumstances in more detail we can help.

Quite.

Although the OP gave it away somewhat by their response. In fact I am currently not in work due to sickness, and haven't been for the last two weeks. I know that I will not be available to work until at least the 9th January. How do I know this? Because I DO have a condition that means I cannot work. And since I do, then that is the end of the matter. As Undervalued had said, if one is sick then the consequences are whatever the consequences are. There is no need to ask about them.

But seriously, how strange is sickness lasting until 3rd January two years running ? That alone could lead to a disciplinary, Bradford Factor or not. Hence the question about how you know in advance that you will be contracting a condition that lasts until 3rd January. The "judgment " was in your head - but since you interpreted the question in the way you did, I must assume that the impression you gave that this was not a genuine sickness is accurate.

theoretica

Your work does not need to wait until you return to apply their thresholds - if you go off now they have about a month and a half in which to do their calculations in which (some of) last year's sickness will still feature. This is what mine would do - it is a rolling year and can, and will, be applied at any point. So they might for instance run the calculation in early December when you have been off for a fortnight, which would quite possibly be over whatever points limit they apply.

Mr.Generous

my advice, give up the job, there will be someone out there who really wants it.

daytona0

I managed to sneak a peek at the formula used in the Bradford factor score and I'm pretty sure it was an exponential function - namely if you have one or two days off a year then its relatively low (like 1-8) but if you are a habitual sickee then it can go up to the thousands, even with only a handful of sicknesses! Mine was 8 at the time I viewed it.

Asking whether it "drops off" is not seeing the bigger picture here.... if you follow up one year of high absences with another year of high absences then you will be the prime candidate for a sacking, irrespective of your Bradford Factor for the current year!

RichardD1970

daytona0 wrote: »

I managed to sneak a peek at the formula used in the Bradford factor score

It's hardly a secret

S squared x D = Score

S is the total number of separate absences by an individual
D is the total number of days of absence of that individual

http://www.bradfordfactorcalculator.com/

Masomnia

Loukousmith wrote: »

Hi, can anyone tell me how this works.. Was off work last year and came back on the 3rd January, I ended up getting a disciplinary which has now fell off.. My question is, if I go on the sick just now and come back after th 3rd January will I still be over my points? Ie will last years sickness still count or will it have fallen off?

You need to speak to your HR department to see exactly how they calculate absence and what happens when.

daytona0

RichardD1970 wrote: »

It's hardly a secret

S squared x D = Score

S is the total number of separate absences by an individual
D is the total number of days of absence of that individual

http://www.bradfordfactorcalculator.com/

Oh I know! Just couldn't be bothered googling it

DS^2 is boring