PCN- free car parking- Wright and Hassall, ZZPS, Civil Enforcement Ltd

Madge1919

Thank you all for your help and advice. Would it be ok to ask for advice of what to put in my defence when the letter comes for County Court. I have read the forums and many examples on the threads but i am having difficulty of trying to pull out what is appropriate to my case due to the content in my appeal letter. I want to make sure it's right so I am not trying to defend inappropriate points infront of the judge.

What I thought may be appropriate to consider for my defence:
It took 30 days for PCN to be with me.
Poor signage that is difficult to read whilst driving and upon parking.
Is there proof that i was parked for the whole 11.5 minutes and not looking for a space.
Issuing PCN means that I initially agreed with a contract and terms that I have not seen and if I had would not have agreed with. The sign states if I park without a valid permit a agree to pay £100 and these terms appy at all times. However does not state how to obtain a permit or what those full terms are.
This was the first time I had used the car park.since the terms had changed from being a free park.
Parking signs say you need a permit to park but not how to gain one and it is not a permit that is gained but your reg entered in to a i pad therefore no guidance on how to park correctly.
I want not told by facility staff of how to park correctly.
The signs threatens legal action and additional costs and recovery action if £100 not paid within 28 days.
The letters threaten CCJs.
I called the gyms managing director who advised they have not signed up to tge parking terms and the shop next door was their landlord who did. The shop next door say creative parking solutions own the land. Telephone to creative parking solutions say they aee unable to deal me (twice) and put me through to CEL automated payment line- therefore all companies are being dishonest and not offering me the chance to appeal to the land owner.
Do i put in that i was confused about the POpLA appeal as i appealed to CeL first and by the time I got a reply I was out of the 30 days.
In my appeal I stated I did not want a generic reply to my appeal otherwise they would bot receive any further correspondence and they sent a generic reply.
The £100 fine was disproportionate to the loss to the landowner.
I was 1.5 minuts over a ten minute grace period(no grace period stated on signs). Again is there proof of how long I was parked.

None of that is very legal and I don't know what might support my defence.

Any guidance on an appropriate defence letter would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Coupon-mad

Did you get a claim?

pappa_golf

if the signsage says permits only , how can both the gym and CEL say (or admit) that there is a 10 min grace period ?

by stating there is a grace period , they are admitting that its not permit holders only