Landlord trying to stop me any overnight guests under any circumstances

silvercar

Voyager2002 wrote: »

Since you are a lodger you are not obliged to stay for the length of the agreement, nor is he obliged to let you stay if he is unhappy with you.

If this is true, any landlord that lets rooms individually could suddenly decide to occupy one of those rooms himself and suddenly tenants become lodgers and have little rights.

societys_child

His sister living there makes no difference. Grasping at straws with that.

Have you tried offering to rent it as a double room?

WibblyGirly

I lived in a house share with 3 other girls (landlord had the house next door) we were told we were welcome to have guests so long as they slept in our bedrooms and we were mindful of others in the house.
In your case as soon as finding out i was a lodger rather than tenant I'd have been back on at the letting agent for my fees bac or for a new place where I was a tennant.
Is the rent at least cheaper than a regular house share? If it wasn't I'd just move.

joelpellington

societys_child wrote: »

His sister living there makes no difference. Grasping at straws with that.

Have you tried offering to rent it as a double room?

No, you're missing the point, she stays once a week, and she pays a mortgage. Also it's not the issue of money I don't think, he's just weird about the situation.

joelpellington

Thanks for all the replies everyone! It seems as if I have no way of getting around his rules without him changing his mind and compromising, which looks very unlikely at the moment!!
I'm getting back in contact with thew lettings agency for them to give me the go ahead to give him an ultimatum of either I move or he compromises. I just need to make sure they'll back me up that he can't hold me to the 6 month contract if he's treating me as a lodger.
Hopefully he needs me more than I need him and he'll come to an agreement.

pinkshoes

Tea, cake and chat...

Tell him you didn't understand the rule as it wasn't clear, you would like your GF to stay over two nights a week, and if that isn't ok then you understand if he would like you to leave, and you will start looking for somewhere else immediately.

Look for a room to rent with your GF then.

Guest101

We need exact wording of the contract, as obviously it can still grant some tenant rights

Pixie5740

joelpellington wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies everyone! It seems as if I have no way of getting around his rules without him changing his mind and compromising, which looks very unlikely at the moment!!
I'm getting back in contact with thew lettings agency for them to give me the go ahead to give him an ultimatum of either I move or he compromises. I just need to make sure they'll back me up that he can't hold me to the 6 month contract if he's treating me as a lodger.
Hopefully he needs me more than I need him and he'll come to an agreement.

Why? Do you even have a contract with the letting agency or is it your landlord who is named on your contract? My guess is that it's the latter.

It's his home, you can give him all the ultimatums you like but you are in a very weak bargaining position. If you have a 6 month contract then you will be legally liable for the rent for the full 6 months unless you can negotiate with your landlord and the best way to do that is to not go in all guns blazing with ultimatums.

moneyistooshorttomention

Pixie5740 wrote: »

Why? Do you even have a contract with the letting agency or is it your landlord who is named on your contract? My guess is that it's the latter.

It's his home, you can give him all the ultimatums you like but you are in a very weak bargaining position. If you have a 6 month contract then you will be legally liable for the rent for the full 6 months unless you can negotiate with your landlord and the best way to do that is to not go in all guns blazing with ultimatums.

If this letting agency insists on sticking to the contract - then they must be told that the landlord must stick to his side of the contract (ie accepting overnight visitors - as per non-lodger accommodation). In those circumstances (ie of going back to the letting agency) I'd give them the ultimatum (ie either make the landlord stick to the contract OR accept the contract has been terminated by the landlord).

EDIT; This landlord might well try to act like he doesnt understand what the agency are saying to him (pleading "language barrier"). That's tough - on HIM.

oystercatcher

My son had a no overnight guests rule when he was a lodger a couple of years back. The landlady said it was due to a clause in her landlords insurance.