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Will Govt. win in Supreme Court?

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  • HornetSaver
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    I should imagine if only one party stands on a Remain ticket that 48% Remain share will look pretty tasty.

    So Theresa May is not calling a General Election because she believes that Tim Farron will win?
  • StevieJ
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    So Theresa May is not calling a General Election because she believes that Tim Farron will win?

    With UKIP, Tories, Libdem and Labour all having their supporters (driven by Brexit), could be interesting. I have said before that Theresa May could be looking for a snap election to increase her majority and also to validate her leadership. Mmmmm, good job for her that we don't have PR. I will be almost certainly switching to Libdem :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • HornetSaver
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    With UKIP, Tories, Libdem and Labour all having their supporters (driven by Brexit), could be interesting. I have said before that Theresa May could be looking for a snap election to increase her majority and also to validate her leadership. Mmmmm, good job for her that we don't have PR. I will be almost certainly switching to Libdem :)

    It does strike me that she has fallen into the same electoral trap as Gordon Brown.

    She has made a convincing case for why calling a General Election will be a bad idea and a waste of time. It doesn't change the fact that with every month she leaves it, the strengthening of her majority (in Brown's case, retention) becomes less of a certainty. Any momentum the constitutional faultlines might have in changing the balance of political support will increase the longer she fails to call it.
  • StevieJ
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    It does strike me that she has fallen into the same electoral trap as Gordon Brown.

    She has made a convincing case for why calling a General Election will be a bad idea and a waste of time. It doesn't change the fact that with every month she leaves it, the strengthening of her majority (in Brown's case, retention) becomes less of a certainty. Any momentum the constitutional faultlines might have in changing the balance of political support will increase the longer she fails to call it.

    She is looking for an excuse to call an election, the House of Lords may just hand it to her on a plate.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Thrugelmir
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    I should imagine if only one party stands on a Remain ticket that 48% Remain share will look pretty tasty.

    Is the SNP going to have candidates standing in England? ;)
  • Thrugelmir
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    She is looking for an excuse to call an election, the House of Lords may just hand it to her on a plate.

    And Labour are trying to avoid one.
  • StevieJ
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Is the SNP going to have candidates standing in England? ;)

    I didn't realise that the GE will only take place in England :)

    OK for England read 46.6% and Wales 47.5%
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • The plot thickens..
    Scots and Welsh can have say in Brexit court case

    The Scottish and Welsh governments are to be allowed to intervene in the Supreme Court battle over how Brexit should be triggered.
    The government's appeal against the High Court ruling that MPs must vote on triggering Brexit will be heard in the Supreme Court from 5 December.
    It will last four days, with the decision expected in the new year.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38027230
    Counsel for the Scottish Government and for the Independent Workers Union of Great Britain have been invited to address in their skeleton arguments the relevance of points of Scots Law, so far as they do not also form part of the law of England and Wales, to the determination of the present proceedings. A further update on other applications to intervene, and a timetable for oral submissions during the hearing, will be issued in due course.
    https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/interveners-article-50-brexit-case.html
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • movilogo
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    So the way law works one must listen/obey to everyone except the common public.

    The law is illegal.
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • The judiciary will I'm sure also take into account the view of the majority that could be bothered to vote. (Before someone nit-picks the terminology.)
    A BBC Question Time audience member has railed against democracy being “lowered to mob rule” as a result of the upset following Donald Trump’s election, Brexit and Scotland’s vote to stay in the United Kingdom.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bbc-question-time-democracy-mob-rule-stirling_uk_582e4803e4b09025ba31c7e9?utm_hp_ref=uk
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