Been off work sick nearly a year and resigning - a good idea?

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Deleted%20User wrote: »

I think you'll find it was over a year sick - I remember replying to this poster around Sept of 2015. And I think I'm being generous.

Over a year not to have saved a penny.

Many have been christened on here for less.

Since I first ever posted to you Brother in a wheelchair - returned to work at 9 months for money worries.

"Christened"? Like paying for the church and service? ;-)

[Deleted User]

EmmaAbby wrote: »

THANK YOU PAULFOEL! At least someone understands. To all the others ur welcome to my illness see how u feel then...

Yes, all well and good to sit on your high horse and pontificate about how people shouldnt get paid if they're sick. UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU.

Slinky

[quote=[Deleted User];71624821]Yes, all well and good to sit on your high horse and pontificate about how people shouldnt get paid if they're sick. UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. And if the boot is on the other foot and you're the employer.

detectivebox

OP, without judging your previous posts and only giving an answer based on this thread...

-If you resign from work, there may be a delay in receiving any payment following a claim for JSA/Universal Credit, think this can be around an extra 6 weeks or so, regardless of the reason why you resigned.

-However, you may be entitled to ESA (employment support allowance) if you're really unable (as opposed to unwilling) to work - but this will be assessed.

Here's more information on ESA:

https://www.gov.uk/employment-support-allowance/overview

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Slinky wrote: »

Indeed. And if the boot is on the other foot and you're the employer.

Fortunately, we have laws in this country to protect employees. Are you suggesting it should be a case that an employer can decided to sack a person if they're ill? I think they probably could in 1850.

and yes I am an employer too. Might not be ideal when someone is off sick but you've got to take the rough with the smooth. All employers know the deal. After all, when you employ someone they sign a contract of employment - if you offer someone a package including sick pay its no good bleating about it afterwards when they claim it.

Undervalued

[quote=[Deleted User];71632370]Fortunately, we have laws in this country to protect employees. Are you suggesting it should be a case that an employer can decided to sack a person if they're ill? I think they probably could in 1850.

and yes I am an employer too. Might not be ideal when someone is off sick but you've got to take the rough with the smooth. All employers know the deal. After all, when you employ someone they sign a contract of employment - if you offer someone a package including sick pay its no good bleating about it afterwards when they claim it.[/QUOTE]

Yes we do.

However it is perfectly lawful for employers to run a very tight sickness management policy providing they go about it properly.

Also, the vast majority of company sick pay schemes these days are "discretionary" and that is perfectly lawful too. For what it is worth I don't particularly agree with that and feel that the increasingly rare hard and fast contractual entitlement was fairer.

Rightly or wrongly that is how the law stands and simply saying "there there, poor you it shouldn't be like that" is not actually very helpful.

NYM

I thought employers could dismiss employees for any reason, if they worked for less than two years?

[Deleted User]

Undervalued wrote: »

Yes we do.

However it is perfectly lawful for employers to run a very tight sickness management policy providing they go about it properly.

Also, the vast majority of company sick pay schemes these days are "discretionary" and that is perfectly lawful too. For what it is worth I don't particularly agree with that and feel that the increasingly rare hard and fast contractual entitlement was fairer.

Rightly or wrongly that is how the law stands and simply saying "there there, poor you it shouldn't be like that" is not actually very helpful.

Neither is saying that the person does not deserve to get paid because its their fault they are ill.

I would agree that there are no issues if the contractual procedure is followed. However, it must be followed with no preconception or personal opinions as the whether the ill employee "deserves" the money or not.

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NYM wrote: »

I thought employers could dismiss employees for any reason, if they worked for less than two years?

I think its a year isnt it?

elsien

Two years now for anyone employed after 6th April 2012. And nearly any reason - there are still some exceptions.
With more protection for people with disabilities under the equality act. Which doesn't mean people can't be let go on capability grounds, just that employers have to be able to objectively justify the dismissal and look at reasonable adjustments etc first.