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P4 Parking Ticket in Scotland

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  • piskyscot
    piskyscot Posts: 5 Forumite
    edited 4 November 2016 at 11:23PM
    The paper trail has been created. So far as blocking the number of the debt collectors on my mobile, presumably that's okay to do? If they do decide to pursue this through the courts, it won't come from them and should be in writing anyway, right?

    So far as admitting that I was the driver, I don't think I've done that. I think I said that to the best of my knowledge no one else had driven it but then repeated six or seven times that I myself had, however, never driven it to Edinburgh, and, that, no, I couldn't explain that discrepancy. I see that it would have been better if I hadn't said anything at all, but I was just so thrown by the whole thing at the time. I didn't review the photos until I had already hung up the phone, so we have had no conversations about me knowing where the photos were taken or the location they have being wrong and I have no intention of initiating such a conversation with them.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,811 Forumite
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    edited 5 November 2016 at 12:22AM
    You block whoever you want on your telephone. And a debt collector should be the first on that list. They have no power to do anything other than send letters. No sending the boys round, no summoning you to court - no nothing, other than letters (and no phone calls once they're blocked).

    You just need to put this all to one side now. In Scotland you are pretty much bombproof and even if there has been an inadvertent identification of the driver, it's going to take a very brave and intellectually geared up outfit to try this in the Sheriff Court. And I don't see P4P meeting either criterion. In fact they've never tried a court case in England, where it would be significantly easier to do so than ever it would be in Scotland, so I can't see them trying to handle the much more complex issues in litigating north of the border in order to pop their court virginity.

    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203683012-P4-Parking-UK-Ltd

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/P4_Parking_UK.html
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • System
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    litigating north of the border in order to pop their court virginity.

    No one should pop their virginity north of the border. Leads to all sorts of problems....
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,811 Forumite
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    No one should pop their virginity north of the border. Leads to all sorts of problems....

    AKA 'one in the eye'! :rotfl:
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    You need a copy of the original PCN and NtK. If the original paperwork from the PPC gives an address in Edinburgh, do nothing else.

    Should it get to court, then all you have to do is produce their own photos that prove that, at the time, you car was parked in Glasgow!
  • Further email and phone call from them today. I blocked their number on my phone, and now they're blocking their number to call me with no caller ID. I think my paper trail is deemed legally to have arrived there tomorrow.

    Logically I am aware that I just have to ride this out...
  • beamerguy
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    piskyscot wrote: »
    Further email and phone call from them today. I blocked their number on my phone, and now they're blocking their number to call me with no caller ID. I think my paper trail is deemed legally to have arrived there tomorrow.

    Logically I am aware that I just have to ride this out...

    Pee4 .... pi**ing in the wind, you might like to have a chat to Trading Standards Scotland about this harassment from these mobsters
  • I'm sorry to resurrect this, but a development.

    I have had a phone call, which I ignored, and an email today from a different person from the same TNC collections agency saying that I have had recent correspondence from her that I have ignored, and that the next step will be to ask permission from P4 Parking to send round a doorstep collection agent.

    Now, I have received no written correspondence. I sent my change of address, with proof of postage, to both TNC and P4 Parking, the day after I first posted on this board, which is now getting on for two months ago.

    I am aware that I don't answer the door to a doorstep collection agent and that if there is harassment of myself or my neighbours presumably I call the police. However. I assume that they're still sending correspondence to my old address, and the last thing I want is for a collection agent to start banging on the door of the person who now lives there. Do I reply to the email to reiterate that they are using the incorrect address?
  • fisherjim
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    piskyscot wrote: »
    I'm sorry to resurrect this, but a development.

    I have had a phone call, which I ignored, and an email today from a different person from the same TNC collections agency saying that I have had recent correspondence from her that I have ignored, and that the next step will be to ask permission from P4 Parking to send round a doorstep collection agent.

    Now, I have received no written correspondence. I sent my change of address, with proof of postage, to both TNC and P4 Parking, the day after I first posted on this board, which is now getting on for two months ago.

    I am aware that I don't answer the door to a doorstep collection agent and that if there is harassment of myself or my neighbours presumably I call the police. However. I assume that they're still sending correspondence to my old address, and the last thing I want is for a collection agent to start banging on the door of the person who now lives there. Do I reply to the email to reiterate that they are using the incorrect address?

    It's bluff, tell them to FO and you won't let them get their crane anywhere near the house! LOL
  • beamerguy
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    piskyscot wrote: »
    I'm sorry to resurrect this, but a development.

    I have had a phone call, which I ignored, and an email today from a different person from the same TNC collections agency saying that I have had recent correspondence from her that I have ignored, and that the next step will be to ask permission from P4 Parking to send round a doorstep collection agent.

    Now, I have received no written correspondence. I sent my change of address, with proof of postage, to both TNC and P4 Parking, the day after I first posted on this board, which is now getting on for two months ago.

    I am aware that I don't answer the door to a doorstep collection agent and that if there is harassment of myself or my neighbours presumably I call the police. However. I assume that they're still sending correspondence to my old address, and the last thing I want is for a collection agent to start banging on the door of the person who now lives there. Do I reply to the email to reiterate that they are using the incorrect address?

    WOW, these are back street cowboys

    You can write to them stating

    "Permission to enter the land or premises is hereby denied.
    This will be the only warning and should you ignore this, it will be considered as trespass and the police will be called"

    You need to inform Trading Standards Scotland ABOUT this harassment
    and ask them to investigate TNC
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