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The economic consequences of a Trump US Presidential Victory?

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  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 12 November 2016 at 2:09PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    They haven't over the past 20 years. Those employed in the industry do. The remainder pick up up the crumbs.Calling the President of the USA a moron. Suggests you yourself are very opinionated and hold very narrow views. Sometimes better to have an open mind. Judge on actions not media coverage.

    Of course he is a Moron. When someone in his hustings shouted loudly and clearly 'kill Obama' and his own child seemed mortified at this statement, Trump didn't comment.

    A statesman would have addressed such a stupid comment in front of his own child to an international audience. Trump didn't

    That was a mark of a real Moron.

    Admitting to ' grabbing women by the p@?!y is the mark of a real Moron.

    Believing a 45% trade tax on Chinese imports could possibly be a good idea is the mark of a moron.

    Believing a protectionist policy instead of free trade would place Amercia in stronger position over the long term, is the mark of a real Moron.

    Not preparing at all for government until the day you win the election is the mark of a real Moron.

    Let's call a spade a spade, he's a moron.
    Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.
  • Filo25
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    michaels wrote: »
    Whereas this time it was Trump 59.8, Clinton 60.1 (no doubt from a larger potential electorate) suggesting it wasn't that Trump brought out extra voters but that Hilary under-polled. Would need to look at the swing stats to be sure.

    Clinton was within 1.5% in FLA and PA which would have swung it her way. Again where the polling is out parties pick the wrong priorities in campaigning.

    I wonder if Team Trump used the same social media data mining as Camp Brexit which allowed a focussed effort at exactly the right voters? In theory Hilary should have had much the stronger on the ground get the vote out operation but perhaps that is what you needed to win a pre big data election and now as in much else it is command of the data not boots on the ground that matters.

    As an anecdote I thought it was a bit wierd Trump was in a baseball cap all the time for his final pre-election media appearances even though it often resulted in his face being shadowed and looking a bit creepy...but of course the baseball cap was a key message to the core swing voter group. I suspect we won't see nearly so many caps now the election is over.

    It's a bit of a weird election in that outside of the Midwest nothing particularly surprising happened, Florida and North Carolina were always tossups, but the Midwest was always a potential weakspot for the Dems so its surprising they didn't seem to be more successful at getting their vote to turnout there, nationally it wasn't really a massive polling miss. Trump always had a bit of a path to the White House and many chose to ignore that or (in my case) underestimate the likelihood of it happening

    Its interesting that there already appears to be a fair amount of pulling back from Trump's more populist promises, I suspect this administration may end up looking a lot more like a traditional Republican one than people expected, if he does go ahead with the massive infrastructure spend however its hard to see how the deficit, interest rates and inflation all don't spike significantly higher.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 12 November 2016 at 1:58PM
    I'm proud Britain dared to grasp a new reality and that this is giving others around the globe the confidence to follow us, replacing the politics of the old arrogant liberal class, with a new open society where we dare to talk about issues like mass immigration, and dare to re scuplt our place in the world, no longer accepting the old globalisation model where China's gain is our loss.

    The old lumbering EU squabble club looks ridiculous.

    The old smug liberals are still out there telling us that everything will fall apart in the abscence of thier sage guidance and advice, that everything is so complex and cannot be left to those outside of the cosy political, that thier statesmen ought to be doing the job of people like Boris.. Bog off.
  • So it now looks like Hillary will have won the popular vote by well over a million votes, and perhaps even closer to two million....

    There's 3 million postal ballots still to be counted in California alone and she already leads by nearly half a million overall.

    No wonder millions have now signed a petition asking the electoral college to respect the democratic choice of the people and select Clinton.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Thrugelmir
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    mwpt wrote: »
    Humanity has benefited immensely in the last 20 years. Stop falling for zerohedge silly doom stories. Trump is a moron. I usually call bigots morons.

    Seems you do indeed hold very narrow views. Assumptive too about other people. Perhaps take a look in the mirror before using words such as bigot. Out of interest how much time have you spent in the US or in the company of Americans generally. I'm not talking about trips to Disneyland, New York or the Grand Canyon either.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    So it now looks like Hillary will have won the popular vote by well over a million votes, and perhaps even closer to two million....

    So what?
    There's 3 million postal ballots still to be counted in California alone and she already leads by nearly half a million overall.

    So what?
    No wonder millions have now signed a petition asking the electoral college to respect the democratic choice of the people and select Clinton.

    So what?
  • Thrugelmir
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    padington wrote: »
    Not preparing at all for government until the day you win the election is the mark of a real Moron.

    Sometimes discussion hits a low that's beyond further comment.

    Time to send this to the MoneySaverArms where it belongs.
  • Crashy_Time
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    So it now looks like Hillary will have won the popular vote by well over a million votes, and perhaps even closer to two million....

    There's 3 million postal ballots still to be counted in California alone and she already leads by nearly half a million overall.

    No wonder millions have now signed a petition asking the electoral college to respect the democratic choice of the people and select Clinton.


    Got a link for this Hamish, as you usually have lots of links to "prove" your stretches of imagination. I heard that HE probably won the popular vote and 3 million so far on the petition is not going to change anything, even if everyone who voted Clinton signed, it isn`t going to change anything? The system is the system, it wasn`t a referendum.
  • mrginge wrote: »
    So what?



    So what?



    So what?

    So... There is no law obliging the electoral college to vote for any one candidate in over half the states.... ;)

    And it's far from unprecedented for a handful of them to vote their conscience.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    No wonder millions have now signed a petition asking the electoral college to respect the democratic choice of the people and select Clinton.

    On that basis the SNP should pass over seats to UKIP. ;)
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