Has anyone changed their mind about Brexit?

Thrugelmir

Mr.Plinky wrote: »

Our main concern (finances aside) at the moment, is the freedom and cost to travel between UK and Eurozone...ie passports, will visa be required at a cost? Who knows what levies will be introduced.

You need a passport now. Why would a requirement for visas be introduced?

As for levies on what? There's already local and governmental taxes built into airline tickets.

Filo25

Thrugelmir wrote: »

You need a passport now. Why would a requirement for visas be introduced?

As for levies on what? There's already local and governmental taxes built into airline tickets.

Well there was talk of the EU bringing in a US ESTA style process a while back but I'm not sure if that is proceeding or not.

Realistically I think its highly unlikely we will be back to needing full visas to travel to EU nations on the other hand it does seem likely we will be left with more inconvenient travel in terms of slower clearing of passport control etc, and possibly some small fees for an ESTA ype scheme.

Not disastrous but equally inconvenient enough for it to be one of the drivers for me to make sure I get an EU passport before we formally leave the union, as I do travel there a bit for work and leisure.

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

Realistically I think its highly unlikely we will be back to needing full visas to travel to EU nations on the other hand it does seem likely we will be left with more inconvenient travel in terms of slower clearing of passport control etc, and possibly some small fees for an ESTA ype scheme.

Is clearing passport control a big deal currently? A few minutes wait. Travel outside of Europe a little. You may appreciate how efficient the Western world is in general.

Moto2

alfred64 wrote: »

This is the last thing we need:


Tony Blair is to announce his "mission" to persuade Britons' to "rise up" and change their minds on Brexit.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38996179

The 'fire-breathers' will be queuing up at the Post Office over this.
Along with the TV licence stamp, they'll also get a couple of 2nd class stamps in order to send a letter of their outrage to the Daily Heil and the Express. Just as soon as the Economy 7 kicks in, they'll put a light on and start writing.

StevieJ

cogito wrote: »

He has absolutely no self awareness. If he had, he would realise that any intervention on his part would simply persuade more people that Brexit is the right thing for the country.

Is this the same person who lead Labour to three GM victories and stepped down undefeated?

Filo25

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Is clearing passport control a big deal currently? A few minutes wait. Travel outside of Europe a little. You may appreciate how efficient the Western world is in general.

Well I wouldn't describe the US immigration system as being a consistently quick process for instance, I've had a fair mix of ok experiences there and horribly slow ones.

As my time is important to me, I consider a second passport a small price to pay to avoid any equivalent delays to the EU over a 10 year period (I travel to other EU nations at least 3 times every year), and that's ignoring the flexibility it would give over working in the EU if I chose to.

warehouse

If I'm honest I would change my vote from exit to remain. However, the way the remainers have acted is so appalling that I would still vote the same just to annoy them even more.

tara747

Cakeguts wrote: »

Lower incomes where? It makes a difference. London and the South East relies on foreign money. The rest of the country doesn't. Incomes in London and the South East are inflated due to the foreign money so the only incomes that are going to lose out are those that are based on foreign money in London and the South East. I don't see why the rest of the country has to suffer being members of the EU so that salaries in London are protected.

Erm... where do you think all that nice tax revenue to pay for Govt expenditure comes from? If London becomes poorer, trust me, so will the rest of the UK.

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

There are perhaps a select few "national treasures" who if asked for their opinion might possibly convince a handful of Leave voters to rethink; the likes of David Attenborough maybe.

But Tony Blair, graciously returning from the lucrative badlands of political exile, like King Arthur when his country needs him most, lecturing the public on the error of their ways? Laughable.

I agree about Tony Blair. If the messenger has no credibility, people won't listen to the message.


David Attenborough did make a case for the Remain side AFAIK.

tara747

Sapphire wrote: »

Mrs May is not 'forced to suck up' to anyone. She is visiting countries outside the EU to assess the trading opportunities for Britain once we leave the EU. That is her job. I wonder if you also think we should cut ourselves from all potential trading partners, such as Saudi Arabia, China, India and other countries where human rights violations are far more severe than in the USA.

Oh, and don't try to insult me – it won't work. I will just consider you pig ignorant and leave it at that. :T:rotfl:

Clearly you don't know the definition of 'ignorant' :rotfl: Anyway, I'd rather be ignorant than a whinging hysterical loon who holds a grudge for decades against the descendants of your ancestors' opponents.

Sapphire

tara747 wrote: »

Clearly you don't know the definition of 'ignorant' :rotfl: Anyway, I'd rather be ignorant than a whinging hysterical loon who holds a grudge for decades against the descendants of your ancestors' opponents.

Just spotted this. So good of you to belittle the very real and severe suffering of my parents and grandparents, who lost family in terrible circumstances to the Germans, and were themselves severely traumatised by being wounded, placed in POW camps and losing their country as well as all their worldly goods – something you obviously have no concept of, especially given your flippant description of the German invaders (who were actually murderers, as witnessed by my family and millions of other people) as 'opponents'.

Don't worry, though, you'll sing a different tune when you experience such things yourself – and you will. Unfortunately, it seems that will be the only way you will learn. Well done. :T

My opinion of people like you stands – and my attitude towards them. And I'll end it at that.