Need extra socket in bedroom, take cable outside?

phill99

Your electrician is just being lazy. that is all there is to it. By the time he has got a ladder out and worked outside, he could have had small sections of floor board up.

Risteard

phill99 wrote: »

Your electrician is just being lazy. that is all there is to it. By the time he has got a ladder out and worked outside, he could have had small sections of floor board up.

It's a bit rich to claim that he's "just being lazy" without actually seeing the property in question. Also, not sure where you got the ladder from - do we actually know whether this is upstairs or downstairs?

TheCyclingProgrammer

Le_Kirk wrote: »

.......... unless there's a mains cable in there as well, which might/could be drilled at the same time. Huge stretch of coincidence though and just more proof (if any were needed) that it is not a good idea to put utilities behind/in skirting boards.

Yes, I wouldn't put either behind skirting boards. Speaker/network cable - yes, but that's it.

phill99

Risteard wrote: »

It's a bit rich to claim that he's "just being lazy" without actually seeing the property in question. Also, not sure where you got the ladder from - do we actually know whether this is upstairs or downstairs?

He is being lazy

Risteard

phill99 wrote: »

He is being lazy

So you have seen the construction/layout of the house then?

No, of course you haven't.

So you are shooting your mouth off.

peachyprice

britishboy wrote: »

Local electrician has been round, looked under carpets and said the floorboards are actually large sheets (its a recent extension) and are a pain to get up (plus we dont want to replace carpet or any woodwork)

My entire upstairs is large sheets, I have hatches at various locations throughout for access to pipes and wiring, it's no big deal. Just lift the carpet, cut out hatches, screw them down when finished, put carpet back down.

BoxerfanUK

Head_The_Ball wrote: »

Our 2004 built house has spring door stops screwed into the skirting.

I mostly agree with you but you could sell your house and someone could perhaps want to fit similar door stops or something else.

How long a screw do you need to use to secure a door stop to a skirting board??? Certainly not any longer than would penetrate through the back!

BoxerfanUK

In a lot of modern houses (dot n dab/studwork etc) it would be easy to remove skirting, router out 10mm of plasterboard along floor level, run cable along floor level and then a short vertical to the new socket, re-affix skirting.

Even if a future owner/occupier was to replace the skirting in the future and nail or screw it to the wall I don't think they'll be nailing the bottom 10mm along the length of the skirting.

Ok it's not accepted practice.... but, funny that accepted practise recommends vertical runs down a wall from the top, I would have thought much more chance of nails or screws there due to pictures, mirrors etc etc.

Tothepoint.

BoxerfanUK wrote: »

In a lot of modern houses (dot n dab/studwork etc) it would be easy to remove skirting, router out 10mm of plasterboard along floor level, run cable along floor level and then a short vertical to the new socket, re-affix skirting.

Even if a future owner/occupier was to replace the skirting in the future and nail or screw it to the wall I don't think they'll be nailing the bottom 10mm along the length of the skirting.

Ok it's not accepted practice.... but, funny that accepted practise recommends vertical runs down a wall from the top, I would have thought much more chance of nails or screws there due to pictures, mirrors etc etc.

So how do you router the plasterboard at floor level?

TheCyclingProgrammer

BoxerfanUK wrote: »

Ok it's not accepted practice.... but, funny that accepted practise recommends vertical runs down a wall from the top, I would have thought much more chance of nails or screws there due to pictures, mirrors etc etc.

Safe zones aren't that complicated. Vertical runs can come from anywhere as long as they are in a safe zone create by an accessory (safe zones extend out horizontally and vertically from any accessory). The corners of rooms and also along the top are considered safe zones (150mm I think).

I have seen an argument to say that cable concealed by rebated skirting (not buried in the wall) isn't really any different to putting it in surface mounted trunking, except it doesn't look like trunking so still a risk somebody comes along and puts a nail in it.