The Simple Bare Necessities feat. Gratitude & Recipes

badmemory

I doubt it will make any difference at all to what most people eat. Those who always eat processed food at every meal will continue to do that. Those who eat it every so often, well some will stop. The trouble is we have all heard the perpetual scare stories, anyone remember Edwina Currie & eggs. We are getting very close to overload, along with the 'how can you believe them' when a few months later they come back with a well it is good for you after all.

It is the food version of Statins. Remember when they wanted everyone over 50 to take them? I have always said that everyone I knew taking them had side effects & mostly didn't even realise they were side effects, just thought they were getting worse. Now they are not even suggesting them at my doctors.

ZTD

mcculloch29 wrote: »

Processed meat causing cancer regularly hits the headlines. Moderation...

This time they focused on higher consumption of fizzy drinks and ready meals causing the cancer.

No, they focussed on "highly processed food". You may consider "highly processed food to be fizzy drinks and ready meals" - but does everyone? No, the authors defined some things as heavily processed, and other things as not - but it's not exhaustive. That's it already on its way to junkhood. Then the nature of the data collection (can you list what you ate last week, including the stuff you've forgotton?) and it's firmly embedded in the junk pile.

mcculloch29 wrote: »

Rather than the glaringly obvious 'the lifestyles associated with very high consumption of fizzy drinks and ready meals.'
Moderation...

That everything has a position and a direction is glaringly obvious. Provably wrong - but glaringly obvious.

mcculloch29 wrote: »

My mum had one of the healthiest lifestyles of anyone I've ever met, my dad not so healthy, to put it mildly. Mum died six years before Dad did, both of cancer. Scare stories do nothing much for anybody,
Although if a few more people switch from sugar laden fizzy drinks to water or milk, and make a pan of soup instead of having a Big Mac, that's not a bad thing,

Ah yes, the historically favoured approach to modfying the behaviour of others to suit personal agenda - The Noble Lie.
- which is indeed what that report was all about. If you have the high quality facts, then you don't need to release junk studies, you can release the high quality data instead.

If you don't have that, well who minds lies if it's for a good cause?

Well unfortunately, that chicken has come home to roost. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis
http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf

badmemory wrote: »

It is the food version of Statins. Remember when they wanted everyone over 50 to take them?

It was far, faaar worse than that...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3931157.stm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22779765

badmemory wrote: »

I have always said that everyone I knew taking them had side effects & mostly didn't even realise they were side effects, just thought they were getting worse. Now they are not even suggesting them at my doctors.

What side-effects were they getting?

badmemory

Basically all the side effects mentioned in the paperwork - but so many do not actually read those very informative bits of paper. One in particular was very swollen ankles with other things too. He could barely make it into work. Had no idea how I knew his doctor had put him on statins.

Greying_Pilgrim

Good Morning :hello:

I agree, everything in moderation. Ready meals aren't the problem per se, neither are fizzy drinks per se, chocolate, alcohol, hamburgers, fries nor fried chicken. It's lack of moderation, tipping over into excess or gluttony, that is the issue for a larger part of the time....... And as for pills and potions, I'd personally rather try to avoid them if.I.can.for.as.long.as.I.can From seeing family members issued with pills for various ailments, it is apparent that a) there is not (it appears) always a science regarding 'dosage', b) issues can arise when you start to take a cocktail of drugs for various ailments, and c) I am just too darn fluffing lazy to be bothered taking pills at regular intervals - there, I've admitted it!

sauceoclock wrote: »

On the gravy front, Bisto beef gravy is veggie and vegan

I did know that sauceoclock - it's the red canister one, isn't it? However, our mrAl didn't have any other brand gravy granules than their own 'Quixco' (sp?) meat. chicken or onion. None of the ingredients listed appeared to be 'meat' per se, but neither did the canister say it was veggie friendly, so I stuck with the onion version. With apple muncher saying about her local mrAl stocking frozen spinach, it's clear there is quite a differential between what various mrAl's stock. Which is a nuisance, as our store is pants......... :rotfl:

We had dazzling sunshine yesterday too, but the wind was soooooo cold. However, snowdrops were duly admired, a nice lunch munched, (which I was treated to), and cake was even demolished as well. Many giggles were giggled and mucho fun was had in superbly cheery company. I even bought some eggs from a road side stand. They were a little dear at £1.50 for 6, but the money went to keeping the hens happy, so no complaints.

Lots of chores to attend to today, and we're all out of bananas.

Tea last night was a cobble, as we were late home after getting stuck in a traffic jam. We got out of the jam, but the alternative route was through Greying Town at rush-hour, so we were still all behind. We ended up with pasta with black olives and cherry tomatoes with a pesto dressing, wild rocket (mrL PoTW - last week), a roadside egg omlette and beetroot & apple salad.

Tea tonight is a mystery as I didn't do my meal plan yesterday and didn't go anywhere near any food shops

Right mustache. Time-is-a-ticking.

Greying X

WannabeFree

Sounds like a lovely day yesterday (other than the traffic)

Have a good day

x

beanielou

Talking about things being out of date you would be AMAZED at how much out of date food is given to the foodbank. Some of it VERY very out of date.
The record thus far in ours is something from 1992. I kid you not :eek: :rotfl:

Lilith1980

beanielou wrote: »

Talking about things being out of date you would be AMAZED at how much out of date food is given to the foodbank. Some of it VERY very out of date.
The record thus far in ours is something from 1992. I kid you not :eek: :rotfl:

1992?! Wow, wouldn't that be a bit dangerous to eat??

beanielou

Lilith1980 wrote: »

1992?! Wow, wouldn't that be a bit dangerous to eat??

Nothing out of date is given to clients.

Greying_Pilgrim

Good Morning :hello:

We went out for a pootle yesterday, to make the best of the brighter weather :j It was nice to go out together as a family. We went to see more snowdrops...... a relative had waxed lyrical about this particular display..... mmmm, all I can say is they must be easily pleased. There really weren't that many snowdrops - and as the setting isn't all that spectacular, it didn't exactly thrill. I think we can definitely cross it off our 'seen' list. No need to go there year on year. We stopped off in a car park for a beauty spot on the way back, and munched our picnic lunch in full view of a small herd of sheep - which I think may have been hebriddeans (no, we were no where near the islands......), which entranced BG and were actually nice to watch, as they were very quiet and relaxed.

BG went for a snooze when we got back and then woke up with a temperature spike So I'm not sure if they haven't come down with something again........ They are currently asleep - as they have through the night - but they sound very snuffly

Tea last night was lentil dhal, rice from the freezer and a mung bean curry that just consisted of mungbeans, curry powder, tomatoes, onion/garlic/chilli/garlic paste with carrots and sweet potatoes. The mungbean curry turned out quite nice given it was made up.

I remembered to return my library book yesterday, so no fines there as it had been renewed as many times as you are allowed.

I have got to sort out my meal-plan for the week today, as we are currently winging it :rotfl:

Can't think of owt else :money:at the mo, so I best go in search of some breakfast. DH is having a well-deserved lie-in, for once

Ta for popping by.

Greying X

beanielou

Thanks for the library reminder.