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Central heating problem

The radiators come on when the hot water comes on. The central heating on the timer is set to off.

One plumber looked at it and said the problem was that the timer is broken, so it is coming on even when it should not. The solution is to get an electrician to change the timer/thermostat.

Another one has come today to have a look at it and said that the problem is in the airing cupboard where the bypass pipe is connected wrongly. He is doing me a quote to remedy this, but said it will be 'hundreds'

Which solution, if either, seems most likely?
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  • lstar337
    lstar337 Posts: 3,443 Forumite
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    There is normally a valve that switches from one to the other, and it gets stuck.

    I have seen it reported here lots of times. Somebody more helpful will come along soon.

    Don't think it'll be hundreds.
  • Le_Kirk
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    Have a look in your airing cupboard and you should see a 3-port valve or diverter valve. It should have an indicator on it to show which position it is in. Switch the system so that hot water comes on and heating is off. What position does the valve indicator show it is in? Normally marked H (heating), M (mid-point, i.e. both) W water.
  • Annie1960
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    Le_Kirk wrote: »
    Have a look in your airing cupboard and you should see a 3-port valve or diverter valve. It should have an indicator on it to show which position it is in. Switch the system so that hot water comes on and heating is off. What position does the valve indicator show it is in? Normally marked H (heating), M (mid-point, i.e. both) W water.


    Have looked in airing cupboard. I recognise the pump. There are also two other things with Honeywell on them. Not sure if either one of these is the 3-point diverter valve you mention.

    How will I recognise it? I can't see H, M or W.
  • Rubidium
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    Annie1960 wrote: »
    Have looked in airing cupboard. I recognise the pump. There are also two other things with Honeywell on them. Not sure if either one of these is the 3-point diverter valve you mention.

    How will I recognise it? I can't see H, M or W.

    You may have two separate valves rather than one three port valve.

    Posting a picture would help?
  • Annie1960
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    Rubidium wrote: »
    You may have two separate valves rather than one three port valve.

    Posting a picture would help?

    I seem to have 2 silver devices with Honeywell written on them. Presumably these are the valves?

    I also have the decorator here who has moved everything so I can't find my camera. All my cupboards are covered in dust sheets, and there are many obstacles in the way.
  • lstar337
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    Try a google image search and see if you can match anything up with what you have.
  • Annie1960
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    http://www.metropac.com/Honeywell_ZoneValves.html

    There are 2 of them, and they both look like this.

    I can't really read anything near the levers.
  • lstar337
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    So it looks like you have two valves and one is stuck open.

    Neither of your plumbers seem to have picked up on this.
  • Annie1960
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    Both of them were here for different reasons, and I just asked in passing.

    How do I identify which one is stuck, and what do I do about it?
  • Le_Kirk
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    They are zone valves, so you probably have separate upstairs and downstairs heating circuits. If they are exactly like that then the bit that has an arrow pointing to it saying "auxiliary end switch" is also a manual override, you open the valve by moving the slider to the right and tucking it behind the little catch above it. What is supposed to happen is that next time power is applied the valve closes. Is your boiler a combi or do you have a hot water storage cylinder?
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