Motorists, what to do about cyclists who constantly break the high way code???

facade

custardy wrote: »

I would certainly hope a driver is checking this mirror more than for reversing?
Arent they checking this for left turns?

Possibly, but that still won't help a cyclist going up the inside when there isn't a left turn.
Also, some of the "drivers" I have followed tend to veer left just before they turn right, I bet they don't even realise, never mind check the nearside mirror. :eek:

boliston

facade wrote: »

Amazingly, this is the side you are supposed to filter past on, then when I open the passenger door [STRIKE]to knock you off for going up the inside[/STRIKE] so my kid can jump out at the lights you are not in danger.

Mr 8-12mph (12mph is a bit generous) won't ever do that though

And yes I do cycle on the road, and as Enterprise reports, in my experience it is the buses that perform the most dangerous overtakes, despite the 360 cameras they are supposed to carry.

If I'm filtering then I would be doing 5mph at most to avoid the risk of being "doored" - I find left is easiest but it depends on the amount of space there is and if i'm likely to be turning right or left any time soon

boliston

vqmismatch wrote: »

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Some cyclists do some frankly bonkers stuff, other things like running red lights when clear to do so are against the highway code but avoid getting caught up in everyone trying to get away from the lights. Since starting to treat red lights as a give way I have had far fewer near misses.

It would make more sense if every set of lights had a 5 second advance cyclist green signal to allow cyclists to get going before the mass surge of motor vehicles like "whacky races".

trinidadone

facade wrote: »

Possibly, but that still won't help a cyclist going up the inside when there isn't a left turn.
Also, some of the "drivers" I have followed tend to veer left just before they turn right, I bet they don't even realise, never mind check the nearside mirror. :eek:

Hello facade, you are absolutely correct, drivers veer left or right depending on the turn made, we are taught like that during our driving lessons, and it is also in the highway code.

It was raining terrible today, i saw this family all on bikes in a single file, getting saturated, i felt for them dearly. I avoided the one way street on the way home today, viability was very poor.

Richard53

trinidadone wrote: »

Hello facade, you are absolutely correct, drivers veer left or right depending on the turn made, we are taught like that during our driving lessons, and it is also in the highway code.

Can you provide a reference for that? I have never seen "make sure you swing left before a right-hand turn" in the Highway Code. I must have missed it.

LABMAN

boliston wrote: »

It would make more sense if every set of lights had a 5 second advance cyclist green signal to allow cyclists to get going before the mass surge of motor vehicles like "whacky races".

They are long gone around here as red lights appear to be meaningless to them and just totally ignored. They slow, have a quick look around and ride through the red light. Why a pointless delay of five seconds for other road users?

Mercdriver

trinidadone wrote: »

Hello facade, you are absolutely correct, drivers veer left or right depending on the turn made, we are taught like that during our driving lessons, and it is also in the highway code.

It was raining terrible today, i saw this family all on bikes in a single file, getting saturated, i felt for them dearly. I avoided the one way street on the way home today, viability was very poor.

I'd also be interested in that. Am now living in fear as my instructor definitely didn't teach me to swing to the opposite way of my intended turn before making the manoeuvre.

What are YOU driving home OP? A tank? A 46T truck? Surrely you can make a right turn without swinging to the left. Otherwise you're a pretty carp driver.

trinidadone

LABMAN wrote: »

They are long gone around here as red lights appear to be meaningless to them and just totally ignored. They slow, have a quick look around and ride through the red light. Why a pointless delay of five seconds for other road users?

Good Morning Labman, when you say them, you referring to cyclist ignoring red lights? if you are, your correct, cyclists often run red lights, but whats the answer to this? more enforcement, more cycle lane, more quiet areas, more education, any ideas?

Strider590

I sometimes swing the opposite direction to where im turning, my car is 5m long, failure to do so on some particular junctions would result in clipping the kerb (on a LH turn) OR swinging into the path of an oncoming car after taking the corner. How often have you been approaching a junction when someone has cut across the middle of the road in front of you whilst making a RH turn into that road?

Taking a wide line into a corner or junction also gives the driver the best view of the road ahead and is recommended practice by IAM and ROSPA.


For example, this lefthander is impossible without swinging right first, to the point where you have to wait for traffic from the opposite direction before turning, with some stupid moo in a Micra behind you cursing and giving obscene gestures.

So here is a drivers side example, of how road users fail to see things from anothers point of view, stuck in their little bubble with no consideration for what it's like driving a large car, a truck, a van, motorbike or bicycle.

jimjames

It seems that some drivers who are stuck in traffic have the attitude that if they're not moving then no-one else is going to either. Seems to apply regardless of whether the other party is a cyclist, motorbike or even other road users who could make progress if a junction wasn't blocked for example

LABMAN wrote: »

They are long gone around here as red lights appear to be meaningless to them and just totally ignored. They slow, have a quick look around and ride through the red light. Why a pointless delay of five seconds for other road users?

I assume "they" is a similar "they" to "they never indicate and always drive over the speed limit" when referring to Audi & BMW drivers.