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Revenge eviction

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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    edited 7 October 2016 at 5:18PM
    Big whoopdiedoo!
    What a childish attitude you seem to have but as you tried to make me look stupid I thought I would just point out that I am not.

    I was not attempting to make you look stupid just pointing out that what you wrote about property ownership wasn't the whole story. It's not as simple as the landlord owns the property and tenants need to accept this because the landlord has given ownership to the tenant by creating a tenancy in exchange for money.

    The worst landlord I have ever rented from had a law degree
    I am sorry about that but not all people with law degrees are bad people.

    Did I say that all people with law degrees were bad people? No I did not. It was just a real life example demonstrating that just because someone has a law degree that's no guarantee they know their !!!! from their elbow when it comes to current housing law.

    You're missing the point again. I don't actually care whether you do or do not have a law degree. The internet is anonymous we can claim to be whoever we like online with whatever qualifications we like.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,738 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Even if you do have a LLB it could be a Richard for all we know.
    I don't know what this means????

    Surely you cannot attend University for three or more years and not have understood the meaning of a "Desmond" or a "Richard".

    Desmond .. TuTu ... (2:2)
    Richard ... The Third ... (3rd)
  • Surely you cannot attend University for three or more years and not have understood the meaning of
    a "Desmond" or a "Richard".
    I have never heard of either of those before.
  • Tipsntreats
    Tipsntreats Posts: 8,612 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    Oh dear. A little upset here. Of course a LL has the right to regain their property. But I think in our case, it was the expense of having to deal with the mould and damp, that gave us a s21. It really was everywhere, all because the outside was in a really bad state, allowing water penetration. We had been asking for repairs for over a year. We were passed to an agent in March. The gas boiler was condemned, we were left without hot water for 10 days. The electrical inspection failed, LL had to replace all lights and sockets etc. The electrician was appalled as we had no earth!
    The LL just didn't want to pay out.
    But enough of the whole debate here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no need to argue please.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,738 Forumite
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    Oh dear. A little upset here. Of course a LL has the right to regain their property. But I think in our case, it was the expense of having to deal with the mould and damp, that gave us a s21. It really was everywhere, all because the outside was in a really bad state, allowing water penetration. We had been asking for repairs for over a year. We were passed to an agent in March. The gas boiler was condemned, we were left without hot water for 10 days. The electrical inspection failed, LL had to replace all lights and sockets etc. The electrician was appalled as we had no earth!
    The LL just didn't want to pay out.
    But enough of the whole debate here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no need to argue please.

    It is a shame you are being punished for doing the right thing. You have in fact done both the L and the Agent a favour by dragging their property into a reasonable state of repair.

    Looking back over the thread, it occurs to me that the whole EH involvement followed by s21 seems to have been engineered by the new agent.

    It might well be that the agent is simply looking after their own interest. (i.e. they don't like properties in dissrepair as it makes like difficult for them, but they do like getting paid to evict tenants and find new ones).

    Have you actually communicated with the Landlord in this whole saga in order to confirm that it is actually their wish to evict you? If they really are that sore about spending money then too bad, you will be moving (make life difficult if you want). However, it might just be the case that the Agent has put them up to it.
  • Tipsntreats
    Tipsntreats Posts: 8,612 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    anselld no I haven't contacted the LL. Actually we were promised by the LL in March that we would always be a given a longer time to leave, if the property was needed back. That is because the LL understands about our disabled son, they have one too. The agent was there at that time, but just said we'll see. Trouble is the LL does not live in our area.
  • Many landlords, particularly in the past routinely serve/served s21s so they were there, ready to be actioned, if ever needed, avoiding the 2-month wait from issuing one.
    Whilst I can see the logic of that from a LL's point of view, for new ASTs that began on or after 1st October 2015 there is new guidance on the issuing of Section 21 notices, which is -


    "A Section 21 cannot be served in the first 4 months of the original tenancy but it may be served at the outset of a replacement tenancy. In practice however, the new six month lifespan means landlords should get into the habit of serving the Section 21 form as and when it is needed rather than habitually."
  • melanzana
    melanzana Posts: 3,953 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    I am sorry for your difficulties, especially after being in the property for so long.

    If I were you I would write, ring or email the landlord if you have contact details.

    At the end of the day what have you got to lose here? Especially since you imply that LL was empathetic to your situation with your child, and agreed to give a longer notice period if it ever came to that.

    Contact LL immediately. Lay out your stall. All s/he can say is sorry it's going ahead. But on the other hand......
  • Most people with LLBs don't end up practicing law as any dribbling cretin can get an LLB from somewhere like Uni of South Wales or Hertfordshire or some other rubbish.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,738 Forumite
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    Trouble is the LL does not live in our area.

    The Agent is obliged to provide you with the Landlord name and address if requested in writing.

    Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 Section 1 ...
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/70/section/1

    You don't know what the Agent is saying about the situation unless you put your case directly.
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