Is it a private road?

Half_way

What the management company say is irrelevant, the important, key thing is what does your lease/rental/ast say? If this is a rented property are you friendly with the landlord ?

minttea1

Not sure about friendly, just normal working relationship, and the management company is the landlord.

I'll dig out the tenancy agreement.

Fruitcake

MR_M_P wrote: »

Don't reply to them, just ignore anything you get from them, unless recorded delivery of course

Ignoring private parking tickets has not been advised since the law changed in 2012. Please do not post inaccurate and out of date advice that could cost other posters a lot of money, including yourself.
They won't use recorded delivery anyway, and nothing should ever be sent recorded by a parking victim either.
All the information about why your advice is wrong is explained in the Sticky thread for NEWBIES.

Fruitcake

minttea1 wrote: »

Hi again,

Thanks for the clarifications.
About to write the letter, and looked at the ticket again, they haven't even got the Location road right, mentioning the main road (public highway), so that makes things nice and easy.

Having said that, UKPC also control the car park for my block of flats, and have just given me a ticket for using my own parking spot. Charming.

It's not a letter you write, it's a copy and paste and send of the BPA template in blue from the NEWBIES thread that you send.

Check with your council to confirm that the road mentioned by UKPC is in fact a public road.
Once you have done that, complain to the BPA, DVLA, Trading Standards, local press, and your MP that UKPC are scamming people for parking on a public road.
Don't mention that where you were parked is not the same road; just send copies of the PCN/NTK showing the information UKPC have supplied.

Fruitcake

minttea1 wrote: »

Hi Half_way

Ok, I'll admit, it was the Mrs who got the ticket. we've been allocated a space which we share. She doesn't display the permit, I don't either. We've only been there a month, so I've not been ticketed as yet.

Edit: I've just spoken to my management company, who are just saying 'you have to display the permit'.
So being happy or not doesn't matter a jot, when the entire country has been sublet to profit driven companies!

Don't forget, separate appeal for each ticket, and only from the keeper (who can be the keeper on the day in question, who may or may not be the registered keeper.)

minttea1

Fruitcake wrote: »

Check with your council to confirm that the road mentioned by UKPC is in fact a public road.
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They've put the wrong road name on the ticket, which is 100% a public road!

FYI - just checked my tenancy agreement, it only mentions to park 'only private vehicles', and 'to park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Premises'.

Sounds to me I'm being penalised for NOT breaking my tenancy agreement.

Herzlos

minttea1 wrote: »

Sounds to me I'm being penalised for NOT breaking my tenancy agreement.

That's pretty normal. Almost none of these invoices are actually valid in law.

minttea1 wrote: »

Having said that, UKPC also control the car park for my block of flats, and have just given me a ticket for using my own parking spot. Charming.

Check with the DVLA that UKPC are requesting the keepers details for every single invoice they send you - they need to in order to claim keeper liability under POFA2012, and the DVLA will be upset with them for trying to scam them out of money (these scammers have form for doing 1 lookup and then re-using details to save money).

Fruitcake

minttea1 wrote: »

They've put the wrong road name on the ticket, which is 100% a public road!

FYI - just checked my tenancy agreement, it only mentions to park 'only private vehicles', and 'to park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Premises'.

Sounds to me I'm being penalised for NOT breaking my tenancy agreement.

Then you need to complain to the BPA and DVLA and others as mentioned with that information. They had no grounds to obtain keeper details and is a breach of the DVLA Kadoe agreement.
Don't mention anything about it being the wrong trousers, just the fact that you have received an unlawful demand for payment for parking on a public road.

Watch out that you don't then get another PCN for the same alleged offence but with the correct road named. They are not allowed to do that so would merit more complaints, but get these complaints out first.

minttea1

So, my task list is as follows:

1. Send UKPC blue template for both tickets;
2. Write to landlord/management company asking why I'm being penalised for not breaking my tenancy;
3. Write to DVLA informing them that UKPC are in breach of "Kadoe Agreement";
4. Write to Council, BPA, DVLA, Trading Standards informing them UKPC are issuing tickets for public roads.

Joy!

Fruitcake

minttea1 wrote: »

So, my task list is as follows:

1. Send UKPC blue template for both tickets;
2. Write to landlord/management company asking why I'm being penalised for not breaking my tenancy;
3. Write to DVLA informing them that UKPC are in breach of "Kadoe Agreement";
4. Write to Council, BPA, DVLA, Trading Standards informing them UKPC are issuing tickets for public roads.

Joy!

1, one appeal for each ticket.
3, and 4 are the same. You will need to look up the details of the Kadoe agreement, but it roughly says the PPC must have reasonable cause to request keeper details. Parking on a public road is not a reasonable reason.

You could add in all the other dodgy things UKPC have been up to, including doctoring time stamps on their 'photo "evidence" and being temporarily banned by the DVLA from accessing keeper details last year.