Pot Hole damage

Sicard

neilmcl wrote: »

Just because you can do 30mph doesn't mean that was the correct speed for the conditions.

You say the "crater" (your words) couldn't be seen because of the rain, then clearly your OH's speed WAS an issue. Had they been a bit more cautious then they may have seen and avoided the obvious puddle and hole and even if they hadn't it would have least limited or negated the damage.

An excellent point. Whenever I drive where puddles have formed I slow down to 5 mph even on a 300 mile journey.

Rob_Mogs

I tell you what, seeing as this thread has just turned into a witch hunt by overly judgemental !!!!!!!s, I invite you to come and have a drive of this road in both wet and then dry conditions then you'll understand why the hole wasn't seen.

We drive the road 'almost every day' doesn't mean EVERYDAY does it, did nobody read my comment about quarry traffic using this road? No I guess not.
I'm pretty sure everyone on this thread (who clearly know everything) knows that when a hole has water in, and it's getting constantly attacked by large heavy lorries it doesn't take very long at all to become larger.

I posted this thread asking for help because it caused considerable stress and worry to my partner and all we seem to be getting is 'driving experts' telling us how we should drive!

Just let me summarise, speed was NOT a factor in the damage caused because there was absolutely no way of knowing it was there, the layout and location of the road made it IMPOSSIBLE to tell it was there. People seem to assume here that it was when they've never even seen the road.

Rob_Mogs

societys_child wrote: »

So, on what date did you report this creater?

Oddly enough the date we bloody spotted it! Which incidentally was when I drove up the road to see what it was she had hit.

AdrianC

Rob_Mogs wrote: »

Oddly enough the date we bloody spotted it!

So there y'go. That's the start point of the time the council have to fix it. Unless you can prove it had already been reported.

neilmcl

Rob_Mogs wrote: »

We drive the road 'almost every day' doesn't mean EVERYDAY does it, did nobody read my comment about quarry traffic using this road? No I guess not.

We didn't miss that bit at all. In fact that makes my argument even more valid, the fact that you already know the condition of the road yet you fail to drive on it with the obvious caution it deserves.

Furthermore, if you go back to post #2 you'll see I already stated that ion order for the council to be liable you need to prove them negligent. If this was the first time that pothole was reported then they can hardly be held responsible, can they.

cajef

Rob_Mogs wrote: »

Which incidentally was when I drove up the road to see what it was she had hit.

But you managed to avoid the pothole.

Rob_Mogs

cajef wrote: »

But you managed to avoid the pothole.

I drove up to it not over it.

Sicard

You came to a website that promotes consumer support expecting support.

Well, more fool you.

AdrianC

Laurie_Sicard-Askey wrote: »

You came to a website that promotes consumer support expecting support.

There is a world of difference between expecting support over a genuine consumer issue - and expecting the council tax payers of his area to pay for his wife's poor driving.

There are national guidelines as to how local authorities should respond to reports of road surface damage. If those guidelines are breached, then the local authority can be held liable for the costs arising. However, the ultimate duty of care is ALWAYS on the driver to drive in a manner appropriate to their surroundings.

Rob_Mogs

AdrianC wrote: »

There is a world of difference between expecting support over a genuine consumer issue - and expecting the council tax payers of his area to pay for his wife's poor driving.

There are national guidelines as to how local authorities should respond to reports of road surface damage. If those guidelines are breached, then the local authority can be held liable for the costs arising. However, the ultimate duty of care is ALWAYS on the driver to drive in a manner appropriate to their surroundings.

Until you see the road in question I'd refrain from making comments or judgements on driving quality, as a professional driver holding every single licence (apart from motorbikes) I think I can make a fair judgement on driving quality.

Even if guidelines have not been breached the council have been negligent by not reporting the hole themselves, they had been repairing sections of the road either side of the damn thing! And it wasn't contractors either, it was Powys County Council highways themselves on site.

Hopefully the road repair history dates will show this.