If "It's the economy, stupid"....Trump wins?

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

There's uncertainty in the US, EU and elsewhere so investors are drawn to the UK where there's also quite a bit of uncertainty? Don't get the logic.

People just do trust the UK to pull through and do the right thing - the safe haven UK effect is well known, and the trust factor is evidenced by the fact the majority of big global trade contracts are governed by English law with disputes to be heard in UK courts.


The US looks far more uncertain what with Obama's $20 trillion debt that produced illusory growth, and an unknown quantity as President

The EU is of course faced with massive challenge way beyond what we face and China is the last place I would invest now

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

People just do trust the UK to pull through and do the right thing - the safe haven UK effect is well known, and the trust factor is evidenced by the fact the majority of big global trade contracts are governed by English law with disputes to be heard in UK courts.

..the same courts where the enemies of the people sit in judgement?

I don't think the safe haven status of the UK will be diminished but it's fanciful to think loads of money will be heading our way from the USA because of concerns about Trump.

Betting against the US has been a good way to lose money for a 100 years or so.

posh*spice

I blame Leicester City - they've made this the year of the unexpected winners. 😜

A_Medium_Size_Jock

antrobus wrote: »

According to OpenSecrets;

Clinton: CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $497,808,791
Trump: CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $247,541,449

Looks like Clinton had the 'deepest pockets'. Presumably she must have spent it on all the wrong kind of things.

Hmmm.
Spent it on the wrong things indeed; it didn't work after all, did it?


According to this, "Trump, a real estate tycoon, bought fewer ads than many experts predicted because he benefited from huge amounts of free press." .
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016s-price-tag-6-8-billion/

Read this too:
http://theantimedia.org/election-spending-sets-record-6-6-billion/

LHW99

benefited from huge amounts of free press

I suppose it comes down to the idea that even bad press is better than no press. This is certainly the third time the BBC seem to have backed the wrong side (and the majority of the polls, pundits etc) although they have put out an interesting one from a US journalist, that certainly seems to sum up a lot of the issues with predictions in both the US and here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37924687

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

..the same courts where the enemies of the people sit in judgement?

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indeed so,
foreigners see that part of our freedoms are our willingness to question establishment and comment on court judgements

it wouldn't happen in Putins Russia

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

indeed so,
foreigners see that part of our freedoms are our willingness to question establishment and comment on court judgements

it wouldn't happen in Putins Russia

Putting photos of the judges on the front of a newspaper in the manner of police mugshots and a headline 'enemies of the people' seems like a milder version of what might happen in Putin's Russia if a judge ruled against the government.

Unacceptable in my view but I won't be running around the houses putting together my press standards for your perusal, critique and subsequent trial by question so we'll have to differ.

If you think the article defensible from a press freedom perspective and/or the accuracy of the headline knock yourself out.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Putting photos of the judges on the front of a newspaper in the manner of police mugshots and a headline 'enemies of the people' seems like a milder version of what might happen in Putin's Russia if a judge ruled against the government.

Unacceptable in my view but I won't be running around the houses putting together my press standards for your perusal, critique and subsequent trial by question so we'll have to differ.

If you think the article defensible from a press freedom perspective and/or the accuracy of the headline knock yourself out.

The issue isn't whether I approve or disapprove but whether I would wish to ban it / imprison the editor or close down the paper.
I won't.

chucknorris

The ftse 100 actually closed 1% up, God bless America! One day I might actually figure the ftse out (or not).

Crashy_Time

chucknorris wrote: »

The ftse 100 actually closed 1% up, God bless America! One day I might actually figure the ftse out (or not).

Early indications are that mortgage rates will start to tick up, are you seeing that on your investment radar? Also if he attempts to "re-structure" US debt all hell will break loose in the credit markets. The FTSE and other indexes are just where central bank injected money ends up, nothing to do with the real economy, if Trump moves towards easing back on QE etc. I will buy one tracker, maybe two on the long term bet that new technology will produce future growth spurts. IMO individual companies well researched would be the best bet if you want to replicate rental income streams.