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Half_way

Somewhere on my travels I encountered an anpr system that worked by inputting your registration number when you wanted to leave, followed by a picture of the vehicle is this your vehicle yes/no, entry time and a fee due. as soon as payment had been made you returned to the vehicle drove out and the barrier lifted with a layby incase of issues next to it.

Kite2010

Probably happens a lot more than is reported, with motorists making mistakes on those tiny buttons on P&D machines.

Proper car-park management would have the machines only requiring say the last 3 letters of a number plate with a man on the ground going round checking for tickets/parking in disabled bays etc, rather than dodgy ANPR tickets probably dished out without anybody checking.

(The sooner ANPR tickets are banned, the better, make the scammers do some actual work, rather than dodgy software doing it for them)

fisherjim

Half_way wrote: »

Somewhere on my travels I encountered an anpr system that worked by inputting your registration number when you wanted to leave, followed by a picture of the vehicle is this your vehicle yes/no, entry time and a fee due. as soon as payment had been made you returned to the vehicle drove out and the barrier lifted with a layby incase of issues next to it.

They have this at Tescos in Slough, and certain council run car parks in High Wycombe area though without the barriers.

peter_the_piper

I like the short stay at Heathrow (don't like the price though)
anpr on entry, prints vrn on ticket
pay at machine before exit, anpr reads vrn and gate opens.
Probably too expensive for most car parks and no good for ppc's.

HO87

Not at all. It just needs a little integration and some joined-up thinking about making the customer experience the centre of the issue not money-making.

Even the best ANPR/VNPR systems will be no better than 95% accurate.

There are simply far too many variables. When you factor in cheap cameras, cheap lenses, compromised positioning, compromised angle, poor or non-existent IR illuminators, reflection, tail-gating traffic, static traffic, dirty or damaged number plates, weather conditions... You get the idea. All of these can contribute to bad reads or no reads at all.

Then, are they using a cheap off the shelf unit with less than capable OCR elements? There are a whole host of potential issues and I'll eat my hat if in car park situations that either the time or money is invested to get the best or at least truly optimal installs. Everything will be down to price which is something of a joke really because the ROI as far as PPC's are concerned must be very substantial - otherwise why supply the kits for free?

born_3

peter_the_piper wrote: »

I like the short stay at Heathrow (don't like the price though)
anpr on entry, prints vrn on ticket
pay at machine before exit, anpr reads vrn and gate opens.
Probably too expensive for most car parks and no good for ppc's.

They've got this at "The Church" Watford and I'm pretty certain is 'run' by a PPC.

yotmon

peter_the_piper wrote: »

I like the short stay at Heathrow (don't like the price though)
anpr on entry, prints vrn on ticket
pay at machine before exit, anpr reads vrn and gate opens.
Probably too expensive for most car parks and no good for ppc's.

Came across a similar type last week at Haigh hall country park in Wigan, so local councils are using them.

Also was in Bristol a couple of weeks ago and when entering a shopping retail park (Asda etc.) I noticed my reg no. displayed on an lcd display above me. The car park was free for so many hours, but if it had been pay and display then it could be possible for the machine to be linked to the entrance anpr and refuse to issue a 'wrong' vrm ticket seeing as it hasn't recognised it.

Coupon-mad

fisherjim wrote: »

They have this at Tescos in Slough, and certain council run car parks in High Wycombe area though without the barriers.

Except that the Local Authority at High Wycombe are banned from DVLA data re their off-street car parks so, in fact, if no-one there appeals a penalty charge then the Council cannot write to the owner and the whole thing dies a death after 6 months.

Umkomaas

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Except that the Local Authority at High Wycombe are banned from DVLA data re their off-street car parks so, in fact, if no-one there appeals a penalty charge then the Council cannot write to the owner and the whole thing dies a death after 6 months.

It's a pity the DVLA weren't prepared to issue such long term bans to the private parking sector. Maybe they find the public sector less intimidating to deal with!

Coupon-mad

That's true.

I understand High Wycombe have continued to be banned but if bargepole knows differently I expect he'll add to this thread.