I will knock you out ! BBCs Jeremy Vine films woman driver`s shocking road rage

custardy

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

I go as fast as I like.

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

That is not what I wrote, though, was it.

You wrote as fast as you like,not as conditions dictate.

brat

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

A bicycle.

I also drive a car, ride a motorcycle, I even walk. I sometimes use my son's scooter, I have also been known to take a bus; I even fly an aeroplane.

Often there's a clue in the name for places you're allowed to use your mode of transport.

You airplane should be used in the air. Motorways are for motor vehicles. Pedestrians on footpaths, submarines under water, etc etc.

I wonder where I should use my road bike?

custardy

brat wrote: »

Often there's a clue in the name for places you're allowed to use your mode of transport.

You airplane should be used in the air. Motorways are for motor vehicles. Pedestrians on footpaths, submarines under water, etc etc.

I wonder where I should use my road bike?

Nessun_Dorma

custardy wrote: »

You wrote as fast as you like,not as conditions dictate.

Sorry, but if I ride as fast as I like, it doesn't automatically mean I ride at a speed that causes inconvenience and/or distress. For all you know, I the speed I like to ride could be slower than walking speed.

custardy

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

Sorry, but if I ride as fast as I like, it doesn't automatically mean I ride at a speed that causes inconvenience and/or distress. For all you know, I the speed I like to ride could be slower than walking speed.

Well which is it?
Is the path appropriate for everyones speed or just some?

Norman_Castle

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

Sorry, but how does that relate to the linked video and the ensuing debate?

It answers your question "why were the cyclists not using the path specifically designated for them to use"


Quote:
Originally Posted by Keep pedalling
If you think she was bad, you need to see this idiot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-37288210



Quote:
Originally Posted by Nessun_Dorma
Although the actions of the car driver was deplorable, why were the cyclists not using the path specifically designated for them to use (a segregated cycle lane). Purely from a safety aspect alone, it would have been the best option for them.

Johnmcl7

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

Sorry, but how does that relate to the linked video and the ensuing debate?

You asked why cyclists don't use the cycle path, the linked article gives an extremely detailed explanation of why.

John

prowla

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

What alternative rules of the road?

From rule 66 of the Highway Code.

look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains, pot-holes and parked vehicles so that you do not have to swerve suddenly to avoid them. Leave plenty of room when passing parked vehicles and watch out for doors being opened or pedestrians stepping into your path

Nothing about always having to religiously stick to the left regardless of conditions, and under those conditions if a cyclist wants to avoid an idiot trying a close pass or opening a door on them they should they should take control of the lane.

I would not ride an A road or country lane in the same manor, but on narrow town streets it is the safest thing to do and perfectly within the rules of the road.

Yes, yes, common sense.

Nice selective reading of the HC, though, but perhaps I could refer you to Rule 160 "keep to the left".

But I'm having trouble finding it, so can you point out where the Highway Code mentions "Prime Position", please?

Keep_pedalling

prowla wrote: »

Yes, yes, common sense.

Nice selective reading of the HC, though, but perhaps I could refer you to Rule 160 "keep to the left".

But I'm having trouble finding it, so can you point out where the Highway Code mentions "Prime Position", please?

Here you go rule HC 160

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203

Note. 160 is not actually aimed at bikes, and includes an exception about passing parked vehicles.

Cyclists are covered by rules 59-82 which does not include anything about staying to the left.

No you won't find anything about prime position in the HC, as it is a term used by cyclists to describe the position you really should take under certain conditions, which are generally, when you are in danger of being clobbered by someone opening a door without looking (happened to me once, but I won't let it happen again) or to make sure someone does not overtake you on a narrow road or pinch point, where they can only do so by breaking rules 163 & 212.

Although not found in the HC riding in prime position under the circumstances I described above breaks no HC rules.

chiefnoodle

Johno100 wrote: »

Reminds me of those idiots in Edinburgh, still falling off their bikes on the tram tracks because of their skinny wheels and not understanding they need to cross the tracks at right angles or thereabouts.

You sound like a nice sympathetic type of guy.