Yes I'm a newbie - help me pls!

Redx

put a precis of the actual facts and their actual reply, yes

Cherryplum

Ok. Yes I do work for a hospital. we are to pay for car parking - 1 quid a day. Being a sheep and following majority. We didn't pay for the parking charge as there is so many loop holes, and didn't feel it lawful and fair. We feel we were not "bilking" we're not able to buy a ticket 24 hours a day. I only received PCN when on nights.

as a result received PCN - from CP plus on windscreen. Yes some people appealed. Yes some people ignored. I followed the majority and ignored the PCN.

Some received NTK in post. Again I ignored like the majority of people. Then received another of NTK saying final payment to be received or goes to debt recovery. I ignored like many others.

Yes you can guess it - I got a DRP letter. Some people have paid the fine. Yes 100 quid. Some 600 quid. I told them not too.

I know i shouldn't have ignored the PCN but was listening to others who said it be fine to ignore them all.

I emailed them all the unlawful and unfair reasons - Cp said it was too late to appeal. After reading the newbie thread I knew this wasn't the case. - as cp do not state anywhere for appeal process.

Therefore I emailed cp stating this and some other info from POFA and I received the email back saying

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the above Parking Charge Notice (PCN).

Please contact me within 3 working days on xxxxxxxxxxx1 (option 6) in order to discuss your case.

So I just want to confirm as i think I member reading something on the forums - do not phone them!!! Is this right ?! Though I'm wondering what sort of reply I can give them on email apart from NO !!!!

Yes I have read posts that state the experience they had. So I know I shouldn't. But I can't really think of a ligitmet reason why I can't call them legally.

Thanks in advance.

Redx

if it is too late to appeal you are at the IGNORE stage , especially IGNORING DRP, you dont phone either up , never , not for anything at all, not even if an asteroid hits the earth

if you get an LBC or MCOL , come back for help , thats when you need it , not before

if you DO have an LBC or an MCOL , then reply back

fisherjim

So now you have put a reasonable explanation you have got decent advice, as Redx states you can do ltlle now but wait and see what happens.

Debt collectors are just a bunch of Muppets that you must ignore!

Coupon-mad

So I just want to confirm as i think I member reading something on the forums - do not phone them!!! Is this right ?! Though I'm wondering what sort of reply I can give them on email apart from NO !!!!

I would email back and say:



Dear CP Plus,

I have received your email suggesting I need to phone you. There is nothing to discuss and I will not be calling CP Plus. As I am the keeper of the car and you cannot hold me liable because you choose not to use POFA compliant wording, you should not even be processing my data, let alone harvesting my phone number and questioning me.

You must issue a POPLA code or cancel and delete my data, within 21 days.

TAKE FORMAL NOTE: You must consider this email a Section 10 letter within the meaning defined in the Data Protection Act 1998. If you do not understand the implications of the ICO complaint that will follow if you do comply, I suggest you seek legal advice.

yours faithfully,

Cherryplum

Thank you all. I did put at the end of my last email
Please be aware If you choose to pursue me be aware that I will not enter into any correspondence and this will be the only email you will receive from me until you answer the specific points raised in my email. As none of the points that were raised in the previous email have been answered. As the registered keeper I am replying out of courtesy this time.

As they never raised any of my points from the previous email. I replied to give them idea that I would be courteous. Giving them a hand of niceness.

Thank you for all ur replies. Think I will have a think about it to see what I choose to do.

Also thanks to redx I won't call them at all !!

Coupon-mad

The beauty of a Section 10 notice is that it puts them on the spot over continuing to process your data and if they do not reply in a suitable way within 21 days you can simply report them to the ICO. CP Plus would not like that and I think, are more likely to cancel as your case is 'too difficult'. They've never struck me as being the sharpest knives in the cutlery drawer!

Cherryplum

Ha ha. Ok. So I emailed them as per the template coupon mad, this is the reply I receive - suggestions most welcome:

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the above Parking Charge Notice (PCN).

Unfortunately as your appeal was submitted and received outside the stipulated 28 days for lodging appeals we are unable to consider your case on this occasion, therefore we are unable to provide you with a POPLA code.

As a good will gesture we are able to offer you a reduced rate of £20.

Your PCN has been held at the discounted rate and you have 14 days from the date of this email to pay the reduced charge of £20.00. After this period the charge will revert to the full amount charged by Debt Recovery Plus.

I have mentioned to them that the is no mention of appeal process in any of their letters and such

Advice please

Umkomaas

All depends how much you want to fight this.

If you ignore it you leave yourself exposed to debt collector letters, about 1 per month for the first few months, then the occasional one out of the blue. Note that debt collectors are powerless, all they can do is send 'scary' letters, occasionally they have phoned people - but all can be ignored.

Only the PPC can instigate court proceedings and they have six years in which to do so. As no one can predict what the PPC might do between now and 2022, so can't give any guarantees that they won't attempt a court case. Since the Beavis case there is an increasing deluge of PPCs pursuing huge numbers of cases through the county court.

If you pay £20, that should be the end of it - but if you do send a cheque, make sure your covering letter (of which you will retain a copy and get free proof of posting from your Post Office) states 'In full and final settlement of ..... '. Cross-reference with the PCN number and the letter you received with the £20 'offer'.

These are your options.

hineyb

If you are going to pay the £20 will that be just for one fine or all 10?? if its for all 10 i would recommend paying it as in theory you are paying £2 a day instead of £1 a day which isn't that bad, and also means its finished with and you never hear from them again and you can continue paying £1 a day.

but if it is only for one that means you will have to pay £200 to clear them all.

You could try writing to POPLA or/and the Land owner..

CM can probably advise better...