Restaurants - please ask who gets the tips

Andypandyboy

I tip but I would far rather not need to. By doing so we are supporting the employer not the employee. As for the role being onerous, I would far rather wait tables than do personal care.

Detroit

JReacher1 wrote: »

Like I said I enjoy reading the arguments of people who justify why they don't tip. The argument of "waiters are greedy" is admittedly a new one so well done![/QUOTE

No that isn't my argument or what I said. You have again misunderstood.

You may enjoy reading the arguments, but I do not think you are fully grasping them.
You are certainly not responding to the points raised or the questions asked, other than with sarcasm, assumption, or the twisting of comments out of context.

Your posts do not make for worthy debate.

Kim_kim

JReacher1 wrote: »

:wall:

Yes but as waiting staff aren't being paid more the fact people like you would "prefer" them to get paid more doesn't help them at all.

The winners here are

1) the restaurants who are getting away with paying low wages
2) tight customers like yourself who refuse to tip and save money.

The losers are:

1) restaurant employees who are not getting paid more from their employers and are serving tight customers who are trying to save money.

I disagree with tipping, I would prefer realistic food prices & fairer wages.
But until that is the norm - I do tip.
I might not agree with it, but I accept its part of the meal cost.

JReacher1

Detroit wrote: »

JReacher1 wrote: »

Like I said I enjoy reading the arguments of people who justify why they don't tip. The argument of "waiters are greedy" is admittedly a new one so well done![/QUOTE

No that isn't my argument or what I said. You have again misunderstood.

You may enjoy reading the arguments, but I do not think you are fully grasping them.
You are certainly not responding to the points raised or the questions asked, other than with sarcasm, assumption, or the twisting of comments out of context.

Your posts do not make for worthy debate.

It's because your argument was poor. It was based on the assumption that tips in a restaurant only go to the person who served you directly. Anyone who has worked in a restaurant knows that is incorrect.

JReacher1

Kim_kim wrote: »

I disagree with tipping, I would prefer realistic food prices & fairer wages.
But until that is the norm - I do tip.
I might not agree with it, but I accept its part of the meal cost.

Well exactly.

That is how it should be.

Kim_kim

JReacher1 wrote: »

Well exactly.

That is how it should be.

But I do want to see "tipping" abolished.
Expecting people to rely on tips to bolster their wage is very demeaning.

JReacher1

Kim_kim wrote: »

But I do want to see "tipping" abolished.
Expecting people to rely on tips to bolster their wage is very demeaning.

Yes but it's never going to be abolished so the correct behaviour is to reluctantly agree to the custom of tipping.

Kim_kim

JReacher1 wrote: »

Yes but it's never going to be abolished so the correct behaviour is to reluctantly agree to the custom of tipping.

But it is in more equal & modern countries with better standards of living & wages. So we can aspire to getting rid of it & leaving it in the third world countries it belongs in.

JReacher1

Kim_kim wrote: »

But it is in more equal & modern countries with better standards of living & wages. So we can aspire to getting rid of it & leaving it in the third world countries it belongs in.

Well tipping is a way of life in America and that is the most advanced country in the world.

Kim_kim

JReacher1 wrote: »

Well tipping is a way of life in America and that is the most advanced country in the world.

Lol - you've just lost any remains of credibility you had.