We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
The MSE Forum Team would like to wish you all a Merry Christmas. However, we know this time of year can be difficult for some. If you're struggling during the festive period, here's a list of organisations that might be able to help
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Boiler Service Document

I've recently completed on a purchase and had since realised that my solictor had not requested the boiler service document from the sellers. Having spoken to them about this, it was arranged for me to get the boiler serviced and the sellers would pay the bill.

The service brought up a number of issues with the installation in regards to safety and it is going to cost at least £1000 to get them fixed.

Am I right in thinking that the solictor should have requested this document BEFORE exchange, in which case I would have known about the issues and could have asked for a reduction? Is this a slip up on his side? Can I contest this?

I'm annoyed that I also didn't catch this, but am a first time buyer so didn't really know.
«1

Comments

  • AnotherJoe
    AnotherJoe Posts: 19,622 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fifth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic


    Am I right in thinking that the solictor should have requested this document BEFORE exchange, in which case I would have known about the issues and could have asked for a reduction? Is this a slip up on his side? Can I contest this?

    No. No. And no, in that order.

    There is no such requirement to have had the boiler serviced. And so no requirement to get such a document. All that was up to you to do before exchange..

    And yes, had you done this before exchange it would have been a good leverage point to get a reduction in price. You can ask now but the buyer can just say "tough, it wasn't an issue for you earlier when you had the chance". they might also point out that its not uncommon for service engineers to say you need a new boiler or lots of work when in fact it can carry on for years, so even your assertion is needs £1,000 is disputable. (not saying its wrong, just that its disputable)

    The only possible get out might be if something in the answers to questions from the vendor specifically mentioned the boiler was in good working order and you can show the faults mentioned means it isn't.
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,195 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    It is surprising how many boilers are found to be incorrectly installed. Are there no competent plumbers/heating engineers?

    There may not be a record of previous boiler services and even if there is, there may be no reference to problems with the installation
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Whilst I agree with the previous posters, this also seems relevant:
    ...... Having spoken to them about this, it was arranged for me to get the boiler serviced and the sellers would pay the bill.
    What exactly was agreed? Was it in writing?

    Was it just the service they agreed to pay for, or any subsequent repair costs as well?

    The precise agreement will determine what you can claim.
  • The only possible get out might be if something in the answers to questions from the vendor specifically mentioned the boiler was in good working order and you can show the faults mentioned means it isn't.

    I think even then it's only if you can prove the vendor knew about the faults. Safety issues can be non-obvious to a non-expert so as far as the vendor was aware the boiler may have been in perfect working order (as in produced hot water and heated the house).

    Had they been getting it serviced and been given a report highlighting safety defects and not told you, then you may have a claim.
  • G_M wrote: »
    Whilst I agree with the previous posters, this also seems relevant:
    What exactly was agreed? Was it in writing?

    Was it just the service they agreed to pay for, or any subsequent repair costs as well?

    The precise agreement will determine what you can claim.

    This was just for the service.
    I think even then it's only if you can prove the vendor knew about the faults. Safety issues can be non-obvious to a non-expert so as far as the vendor was aware the boiler may have been in perfect working order (as in produced hot water and heated the house).

    Had they been getting it serviced and been given a report highlighting safety defects and not told you, then you may have a claim.
    I wasn't questioning the seller. I was questioning whether the Solictor had made a mistake by not requesting and showing me the service document before exchange, but it sounds as if he is not required to do this? I thought this was one of the things he had to do.
  • AnotherJoe
    AnotherJoe Posts: 19,622 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fifth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    I was questioning whether the Solictor had made a mistake by not requesting and showing me the service document before exchange, but it sounds as if he is not required to do this? I thought this was one of the things he had to do.

    No, it isn't. Rental properties have to have a gas safety certificate. Nothing else does.
    The property doesn't even have to have a working boiler let alone a service certificate, its down to the buyer.
  • AnotherJoe wrote: »
    No, it isn't. Rental properties have to have a gas safety certificate. Nothing else does.
    The property doesn't even have to have a working boiler let alone a service certificate, its down to the buyer.

    I see. Is there documentation I can read on this?
  • Surrey_EA
    Surrey_EA Posts: 2,048 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts
    I see. Is there documentation I can read on this?

    Are you asking if there's documentation you can read to confirm for yourself that a seller does not have to supply a boiler service document?

    I'm sure there must be somewhere, but I don't have a link readily available, but I can confirm that the information AnotherJoe has given you is correct.
  • Sorry, I wasn't doubting the information given, I was just hoping to read something in full. More so to educate myself for the future. :)
  • hazyjo
    hazyjo Posts: 15,475 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    The list of what needs supplying or doing would be long enough without having to list all the things that don't need doing!


    There are lots of house buying/selling books in the library if you wanted to have a browse, or this gives info on what's legally needed.


    https://www.gov.uk/buy-sell-your-home/overview


    Jx
    2024 wins: *must start comping again!*
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 246K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.8K Life & Family
  • 259.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.