Complaint from neighbour with mental health issue

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Davesnave wrote: »

Are you saying that if there is a noise from chickens which don't belong to me, I should declare this on the TR6, just because someone once mistakenly thought they were mine?

That's bonkers.

It brings into play all sorts of other crazy stuff too, like how far away do the chickens have to be before they become legally significant? Or how can they be legally significant anyway, because everyone has the right to keep chickens? (although not cockerels)

No, you have to declare that someone once complained about you having chickens.

Jamie_Cortez

Job wise i have experience with this sort of situation, the Environmental health teams in these departments will send out notice letters without any proof of any actual noise.
It is just a notification letter, nothing more at this stage, i don't for see why you would need to disclose it nothing has been proven it is not factual or relevant at this point.

Likewise they do not have to have "recorded incidents" at your expense. They simply need to seek appropriate medical help, their GP will make referrals for example.
The local Police (Neighbourhood Teams if you have them where you are) may be aware of this vulnerable lady, so it could be worth touching base with them, they also have mechanisms to highlight vulnerable adults which can get help into place.

Davesnave

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

No, you have to declare that someone once complained about you having chickens.

I'm going to have a very long list then, when the time comes to sell!

On a more serious note, locally we may have had an early case of malicious complaint with intention to lower house price.

This involved an older couple who were berated one evening by an neighbour with whom they'd never argued before, over something very trivial. The police were called, but significantly, long before they arrived, the woman yelled,"You'll never sell your house, now you're in a dispute with me!" The couple's house had gone on the market.

There are many who'd prefer not to live with this woman as a neighbour, but she has numerous adult relatives and some friends, who probably wouldn't mind.....;)

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Davesnave wrote: »

I'm going to have a very long list then, when the time comes to sell!

On a more serious note, locally we may have had an early case of malicious complaint with intention to lower house price.

This involved an older couple who were berated one evening by an neighbour with whom they'd never argued before, over something very trivial. The police were called, but significantly, long before they arrived, the woman yelled,"You'll never sell your house, now you're in a dispute with me!" The couple's house had gone on the market.

There are many who'd prefer not to live with this woman as a neighbour, but she has numerous adult relatives and some friends, who probably wouldn't mind.....;)

Well, that's exactly the kind of thing that needs to be declared. The fact that it's a groundless, malicious complaint is what the potential buyers need to know. The system is definitely working there as it is intended to.

As to the very long list, have there really been that many complaints officially registered against you? I've never had one against me in my entire life, and offhand I can't think of anyone I know who has (some of course may have done and not have told me; but I don't know of any).

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Jamie_Cortez wrote: »

Job wise i have experience with this sort of situation, the Environmental health teams in these departments will send out notice letters without any proof of any actual noise.
It is just a notification letter, nothing more at this stage, i don't for see why you would need to disclose it nothing has been proven it is not factual or relevant at this point.

Likewise they do not have to have "recorded incidents" at your expense. They simply need to seek appropriate medical help, their GP will make referrals for example.
The local Police (Neighbourhood Teams if you have them where you are) may be aware of this vulnerable lady, so it could be worth touching base with them, they also have mechanisms to highlight vulnerable adults which can get help into place.

No, no, no. It doesn't matter that it isn't factual! Nobody cares whether you have done anything to annoy your neighbours when you are selling your house. They want to know if your neighbours are the type of people who raise complaints. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Davesnave

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Well, that's exactly the kind of thing that needs to be declared. The fact that it's a groundless, malicious complaint is what the potential buyers need to know. The system is definitely working there as it is intended to.

As to the very long list, have there really been that many complaints officially registered against you? I've never had one against me in my entire life, and offhand I can't think of anyone I know who has (some of course may have done and not have told me; but I don't know of any).

Yes, the system is working well against the innocent parties, who never had a problem before.

In the context of where I live, going into what an 'official' complaint is could take all day. I've been involved with a few in recent years, most of them possibly recorded in the minutes of a management committee, to which I have no right of access whatever.

At my age it's easy to forget such things...

Jamie_Cortez

People want to know if you have problem neighbour's. I would hardly call someone with mental health issues a problem neighbour.

Especially when her family are aware of her illness.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Davesnave wrote: »

Yes, the system is working well against the innocent parties, who never had a problem before.

In the context of where I live, going into what an 'official' complaint is could take all day. I've been involved with a few in recent years, most of them possibly recorded in the minutes of a management committee, to which I have no right of access whatever.

At my age it's easy to forget such things...

You are always innocent of your neighbours being ****s. The point of the system is to allow a potential buyer to find out that your neighbours are ****s. This is never in your favour. By raising malicious complaints, they are showing themselves to be ***s, and this is what the buyer wants to know about. It's hard luck on people who have ****s for neighbours, but this is the whole point - it has nothing to do with fault on the part of the house seller.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Jamie_Cortez wrote: »

People want to know if you have problem neighbour's. I would hardly call someone with mental health issues a problem neighbour.

Especially when her family are aware of her illness.

If they call the police on you at 2am every Saturday they are a problem, even if it is due to their mental health issues.

Jamie_Cortez

No they are a person with an illness that get flagged in the system (and that's what needs to happen) typically the police will signpost to EH over noise issues.
And at worst they'll drive by with the windows down hear no noise and you'll never know about it.