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got a letter about a PCN from 2011!

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  • beamerguy wrote: »
    Yes, we guessed that.

    VCS as a company have been a complete failure collecting parking charges so they are now on a blitz using BW Legal

    BW Legal must have sent out countless thousands of these letters recently, They beg for money just like bods you see on the street.

    You read about BW Legal here
    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=bw+legal

    And read all about VCS here
    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=vcs

    As you can see the scammers are now having a go at you.

    So, who remembers 5 years ago ??

    If this was me ... others might disagree, my letter to BW
    LEGAL would be.

    Dear Sirs,

    I am in receipt of your letter dated ....

    I am not certain why you write to me making a claim for monies and then offering a discount.

    You are required to give me full details and your authority to contact me. I require a statement of the person/company who authorised you to contact me

    I note that you are registered with the SRA (Solicitors Regulation Authority). If you fail to reply to me within 14 days, I will ask the SRA to investigate your eroneous claim

    yours faithfully


    No further information should be provided

    So I pretend I know nothing about it and ask for all the information they have?
  • beamerguy
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    emma.cook3 wrote: »
    Ok, that makes sense Umkomaas
    . Unfortunately I have a lot of other stuff going on with 3 children with disabilities and one still not in school so I am already fighting legal battles for them so probably am easy prey for them. Its really not what i need right now. I have asked my husband to have a look through Pepipoo though. But proactive is better so I will gather my energy!

    Oh dear, well we can only help with these vermin and we will

    Take it easy, right now its not that urgent
  • beamerguy
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    emma.cook3 wrote: »
    So I pretend I know nothing about it and ask for all the information they have?

    It's a scam to extort money from you so of course, you need to know all about it ..... 5 years ago, long time for you to remember anything about this. All I remember about September 5 yeas ago is that in that month it was my birthday as it is every year and ..... no i do not have dementia
  • beamerguy
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    emma.cook3 wrote: »
    Been reading up. apparently they are succeeding with 60% of the cases so I would rather pay than go to court. It doesnt look good. I was in the precinct all the time and didnt see the sign and since it was a free car park a £100 fine is ridiculous but I really dont have a case. If they take me to court, I will have to pay anyway. Dont want to risk a nervous breakdown

    SLOW DOWN, where are you reading this ? BW Legal are new kids on the block ????

    Guess your name is your user name, if it is, no more explaining please, these vermin read this forum
  • Umkomaas
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    @emma. These are very early days in seeing how this VCS/Excel/BWL strategy is unfolding. Not one single case has yet got to the small claims court stage (note the court status - it is not a criminal court - so no wigs, juries, fines, prison sentences, no stigma!) so we don't even know how any of this will unfold so now is not the time to capitulate.

    If this does get to the court stage, you can settle at any time up to the point of entering the courtroom.

    My advice is to play for time, respond robustly to their letters (do not reveal the identity of the driver) and sit back and see how this all plays out. Almost certainly there are very many in the queue ahead of you who will first 'test the water' and which might help you decide your own personal strategy as things progress.

    Now is most certainly not the time for knee-jerking.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Redx
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    edited 22 August 2016 at 10:58PM
    as you have not disclosed who the driver was (edit post #1 please) then as its before oct 2012 when POFA2012 came in they will fail to win against the keeper and the keeper is not required to disclose who the driver was

    any legal defence will start with no locus standii and then move onto the fact this was before 2012 and they have not complied with POFA2012 anyway, despite it pre-dating POFA

    they have no idea who the driver was, keep it that way

    then its fairly easy to defend it if they try an MCOL on various legal points like no locus standii , no keeper liability , inadequate and poor signage etc

    and contact the BMPA , they may assist you with paperwork etc due to your circumstances, if you dont ask , you dont get
  • No! my username isnt my real name. I never use my real name for anything.
  • Redx
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    please edit post #1 and say what the driver may or may not have done

    the trick is never to use the following

    "me , myself , or I"
  • emma.cook3
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    edited 22 August 2016 at 11:06PM
    beamerguy wrote: »
    SLOW DOWN, where are you reading this ? BW Legal are new kids on the block ????

    Guess your name is your user name, if it is, no more explaining please, these vermin read this forum[/QUOTE
  • Redx
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    its too late for any appeal

    the debt is denied , end of story

    the keeper is not liable for the invoice , end of story

    they do not know who was driving - end of story

    they may not have the landowners permission to issue a court case, - end of story

    the list goes on

    please edit post #1 asap
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