section 21

FBaby

You say that rental is due in advance but that July was paid mid-August. That just doesn't make any sense.

tibbers

Guest101 wrote: »

Are you guarantors or joint tenants?

were guarantors, which lasts until the tenancy has ended

G_M

This is why your own thread would be better. There are now 2 posters getting answers all mixed up together. Hence this will be my final post to you here

sniggings wrote: »

Thanks G_M, you say no to the notice has to be given by letter, so what are the ways the notice can be served.
The Notice should be served by hand or by post.
I said not by letter as I envisaged you writing your own letter in your own words giving notice.

I'm trying to get to whether the tenant has to be aware of the section 21 having been served.
No. As I said, if it is served by post but the tenant fails to open the envelope, the Notice is still served (2 postal days following posting by 1st class).

Edit think I found the answer, the tenant needs to have been served by letter/ email, so they will know about it ( even if they forgot)

Do not use email unless the tenancy agreement specifies a) that Notices may be served on the tenant by email and b) what email address to use.

edit: by all means include a letter in the envelope with the Notice - you may wish to explain why you are serving notice, provide information regarding returning keys, or offer to permit the tenant to end the tenancy earlier (g if he finds an alternative home), etc.

thesaint

G_M wrote: »

This is why your own thread would be better. There are now 2 posters getting answers all mixed up together. Hence this will be my final post to you here

In future, tell them to start their own thread and leave it at that. You are making things worse.

parkrunner

G_M wrote: »

So what is your problem.

1) Make sure he pays his rent on time
2) Make sure he cleans and tidies the flat and has an inspection
3) Provide ID for yourselves
4) Make sure he provides ID

Whether these steps are fair, justified, or can be legally enforced is irrelevant. They are all fairly simple steps to take and make no huge demands of either him ot you. So comply, and the S21 will not be enforced. Sorted!

Fail to take these steps and the LL is likely to enforce the S21 Notice. That may raise questions as to the validity of the S21, but make no mistake, even if it is invalid, it will eventually be corrected and he will be evicted, so why not take the easy option?

I don't know why but some people appear to find that so difficult.

tibbers

FBaby wrote: »

You say that rental is due in advance but that July was paid mid-August. That just doesn't make any sense.

i got confused.. does happen at my age

G_M

So in fact there may be considerable arrears, about the existance of which you are confused..........

Guest101

tibbers wrote: »

were guarantors, which lasts until the tenancy has ended

I just find it strange that you're paying the rent and then claiming it back

FBaby

Or are you saying that you paid August rent on the 17th?

From what you've written, it really sound like you have some essential information missing to understand the actual situation.

My guess is that the LL wasn't happy about your SS losing their job and feared rent would stop being paid, hence the S21 issued. Then the LA realised that it was actually you paying the rent and therefore it wasn't an issue. LL is reassured that payment should continue so withdraw S21, but with conditions. The LA is however under pressure because they realised that they are missing information from you that means that they might not be able to go after you if you stop the rental payment, hence coming up with non sense to get you back there to sign key pieces of paper.

If you are happy to continue to pay each month, then go and give them what they are asking for.

sniggings

One thing I don't get (OK 1 of many) is, if a s21 has no expiry date if before 1 October 2015, or even with an expiry date post 1 October , surely the notice has to state when the notice starts and ends?