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USA Visa Arrangements

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  • My understanding is that it, firstly, it depends on which other country (definitely not Canada or Mexico) and, secondly, the immigration officer will want to know your reason for re-entering the USA so soon/without returning home first. If they think that the reason is to circumnavigate the system simply to get another 90 days then you would probably be refused entry.

    If you are denied entry by US Immigration, the airline is responsible to fly you back to wherever your arriving flight came from.

    I agree with this, but just to point out that the airline may then make a civil claim against you for your costs if you have been deliberately deceptive. Also to keep in mind the cost and difficulty of getting back to the UK from an outlying region, especially without being able to re enter the US.

    With the potential for things to go wrong I would take the official route and get a suitable visa.
  • PompeyPete wrote: »
    I found the answer out with a quick Google search. .....fair share of muddy water.

    Only result that is pertinent is what the CBP manual says, and since there is nothing in the manual, it's left to the officers discretion.
  • PompeyPete
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    Only result that is pertinent is what the CBP manual says, and since there is nothing in the manual, it's left to the officers discretion.

    Hence the muddy water.

    What I did read though, if you want to try it you need to convince the officer that you're not attempting to live in the USA.

    The more supporting paperwork you can produce for wanting to be in the USA again so soon after your 90 days has expired the greater your chance of success.
  • sheramber
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    https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1072/~/about-the-electronic-system-for-travel-authorization-(esta)

    When traveling to the U.S. with the approved ESTA, you may only stay for up to 90 days at a time - and there should be a reasonable amount of time between visits so that the CBP Officer does not think you are trying to live here. There is no set requirement for how long you must wait between visits.
  • PompeyPete
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    sheramber wrote: »
    https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1072/~/about-the-electronic-system-for-travel-authorization-(esta)

    When traveling to the U.S. with the approved ESTA, you may only stay for up to 90 days at a time - and there should be a reasonable amount of time between visits so that the CBP Officer does not think you are trying to live here. There is no set requirement for how long you must wait between visits.

    Muddy water!
  • PompeyPete wrote: »
    Muddy water!

    More than likely deliberate muddy water.

    Leaving it to the discretion of the CBP office gives a lot more flexibility to admit/refuse.

    IMO trying to reset the 90 days by doing this is just asking for trouble.
  • I know of someone who is looking to attempt to do this. I am guessing that overstaying the 90 days will also cause trouble.
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    I know of someone who is looking to attempt to do this. I am guessing that overstaying the 90 days will also cause trouble.
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    The fact that crossing the border doesn't reset the 90 days can actually be very useful. A few years ago, we flew into Calgary, drove down to Seattle, back up to Vancouver, then got on a cruise ship bound for Alaska.

    We were fast-tracked at Vancouver port as we had already been processed for entry into the US.
  • The plan is to fly to say Brazil - stay a bit - then go back to USA for another 90 days - I am guessing they have that covered?
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