Not Parked Within a Marked Bay

pistonvalve

Hi All,


I received a PCN yesterday from Herefordshire CSPM. I was parked on a Council owned car park within a poorly marked bay. The front R/H tyre was on top of the marking the other tyres were well within the bay. Car was parked like this because the vehicle parked in the adjacent bay was into my bay. I have appealed to the company but should I just 'pay up' or fight on. Have a photo but not sure how to post on here?


Mike.

beamerguy

pistonvalve wrote: »

Hi All,


I received a PCN yesterday from Herefordshire CSPM. I was parked on a Council owned car park within a poorly marked bay. The front R/H tyre was on top of the marking the other tyres were well within the bay. Car was parked like this because the vehicle parked in the adjacent bay was into my bay. I have appealed to the company but should I just 'pay up' or fight on. Have a photo but not sure how to post on here?


Mike.

This just plain stupidity by CSPM, another try on for a fast buck.
They are a BPA member meaning you can go to POPLA once you get a code.

Was this a retail car park ?

The council should ensure that their car parks are fit for purpose, poorly or faded bays (seen a lot) and as they own it, ask them to cancel the ticket.

Upload your picture to photobacket or the like and place the link here . EXCLUDE all personal info from the picture

pistonvalve

Thank you beamerguy,


The car park is owned by Bromyard Town Council, it is not a retail park





Mike.

DoaM

Please just post a LINK to the image .. please do not try to use IMG tags.

beamerguy

pistonvalve wrote: »

Thank you beamerguy,


The car park is owned by Bromyard Town Council, it is not a retail park





Mike.

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac128/mikehardy124/Parking%20appeal%202_zpsom6ptzdn.jpg

And they are employing a private parking company.

well the bay needs repainting to define the space and probably difficult to see in bright sunshine so tackle the council as the markings are inadequate ... lacking the quality or quantity required; insufficient for a purpose.

pistonvalve

Thank you beanerguy for sorting the image out. The 'insert link' does not function here. Why?


Mike.

beamerguy

pistonvalve wrote: »

Thank you beanerguy for sorting the image out. The 'insert link' does not function here. Why?


Mike.

ok, it does work, just did it for yours

pappa_golf

this is a counsil car park , no BPA , IPC or POPLa , can I suggest that the OP registers at pepopoo and asks his questions

beamerguy

pappa_golf wrote: »

this is a counsil car park , no BPA , IPC or POPLa , can I suggest that the OP registers at pepopoo and asks his questions

the operator is a BPA member who gave a ticket so he can appeal to POPLA and ask the landowner, the council to cancel it

http://herefordshirecspm.homestead.com/appealyourpcn.html

HO87

pappa_golf wrote: »

this is a counsil car park , no BPA , IPC or POPLa , can I suggest that the OP registers at pepopoo and asks his questions

Well done PG. Full marks for spotting that this happened on a council car park - albeit Bromyard Town Council. However, what you have missed is that the issuer of the PCN is Corporate Services Parking Management a small-time PPC from Hereford.

I'm sure we needn't trouble those fellows on PPP for this. It is after all a straightforward BPA/POPLA case.

Whether there is a PPO (Parking Places Order) remains to be seen and if there is then the car park won't be "relevant land". Will it?

pappa_golf

cheers HO87 , I did spot the private parking co involved and did some googling around the forums about this company


seems that the government have told counsils off for out sousing car parks to Extortion companies , and indeed Corporate Services Parking Management , have no standing to press charges on this land


the "hint" to go to pepipoo , was that if it was posted in council section , the regulars would explain the anomalies' involved .


as you well know preston counsil dismissed ANPR ltd at a special meeting when they knew they were going to be liable for there actions




is a PPO (Parking Places Order) required? the land is OWNED by the council and not sublet or leased to another company?