invoiced for parking in permit only by UKCPS

Aw88uk

Hi, I've read through different cases in this forum and also the newbie/help stickys but still confused about best course of action and require advise if possible...


I parked in Newcastle City Centre in a permit only area at around 18:15 and came back to a notice on my windscreen at 20:00 which was timed at 18:45. This area is very small for around 8 cars max and is more like a large path hidden out the way with a small wooden fence around that is knee high. There were signs but stupidly thought with it being quite late it would be ok, clearly not! they company who gave me the ticket is I believe UKCPS and governed by the IPC?


I have read numerous things NOT to ignore but to appeal which will get rejected but I'm unsure of the best course of action as there is lots of different options and a lot of information. I currently don't know who owns this small plot of land and I'm not sure how I can find out


thanks in advance

Umkomaas

There were signs but stupidly thought with it being quite late it would be ok, clearly not!

The only way these outfits get money is via ticketing. Why would they overlook the opportunity to get more? If you'd have parked at 3am, it would likely to have made no difference!

Use the IPC template appeal (to show you are not avoiding engaging in the appeals process), as per the sticky advice and the timing of sending this. It will inevitably generate a rejection. Appealing thereafter to the IAS is regarded by most as a futile exercise and may work to your disadvantage as the PPC will have an 'independent' rejection to wave should this get to court.

UKCPS are mildly litigious, mainly focusing on blue badge cases, but not restricted to them. Do not ignore court papers.

Aw88uk

If I'm correct in thinking the general idea is waiting for the NTK to come through the post and at around 25 days to write up an appeal and send via email?

Thanks for the info

Umkomaas

With an IPC member windscreen ticket, the appeal window is 21 days (28 days for BPA members), so if you can make your initial appeal online, do so at around day 19. This will possibly mean they deal with rejecting your appeal and overlook sending you a compliant NtK.

This is a technical tactic to avoid keeper liability; it is not a silver bullet - nothing is at this stage in this game, other than a landholder cancellation.

You've inadvertently entered the rodeo and you've got to hang on to the bull's back I'm afraid.

The_Slithy_Tove

Since it's permit only, there is no offer to park to anyone else (though I am sure the signs attempt to make an "offer" to park for £100 - it's nonsense), so that makes it purely a matter of trespass. Only the landowner can pursue a trespass (and get diddly squat), UKCPS can get nothing. So they'll bully you into thinking the have a case instead.

Aw88uk

Thanks for the advice I'll sit tight till around day 18/19.

Is there anyway I can find out who owns the land as it wasn't in a standard car park, literally a small plot of land..

Redx

the land registry , for £2.50p I think

Umkomaas

You could also try the local council planning department or the local valuation office.