Can't pay back loan. What happens?

Voyager2002

adindas wrote: »

Any link ???
What sometimes happen is that people die due to different causes e.g political issue, mental illness, drug addicted, alcoholic, accident ...

If people do not get support for family, they should beg ....
If people on the street are hungry and ask for food (not asking money to buy drug, alcohol) many people will be willing to help

And is that what you want to see in the UK?

adindas

Voyager2002 wrote: »

And is that what you want to see in the UK?

It is not going to happen in the UK
If people are given a tough choice between working on minimum wage or begging, they will choose to work on minimum wage.

The current incentive here in the UK prevent that to happen. For people who are not currently working they still get the same income or even more from benefit especially for people with a lot of children. Not to mention the great opportunity to cheat on benefit system such as working on part time job without declaring their income, subletting their council house, right to buy with heavily discounted price in the later stage. If you are working on minimum wage did you get that opportunity ???. The chance of getting caught is very low as put surveillance and chasing the case like this will be more likely to cost the taxpayer's more then what they might get in return. But Even you are getting caught what you have got to loose ?? You are more likely to get a suspended sentence.

I do not know whether people are aware or not, some people on benefit here in the UK are actually very intelligent people which could only be matched by fraudsters. That is the reason why they choose to be on benefit than work, benefiting from the flaw on the system here in the UK.

The model in Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan Malaysia is working perfectly. Nobody is cheating, no one is dying of starvation, yet they belong to the most competitive nations on earth.

Voyager2002

adindas wrote: »

It is not going to happen in the UK
If people are given a tough choice between working on minimum wage or begging, they will choose to work on minimum wage.

And people who cannot work (different kinds of disability; black-listed for trade union activism; wrong age / skin-colour / educational level)?

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adindas

Voyager2002 wrote: »

And people who cannot work (different kinds of disability; black-listed for trade union activism; wrong age / skin-colour / educational level)?

And what do you see happen in Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia ?? Is there any people dying of starvation ??

Human has a social nature and therefore will be willing to help the people in need. But the current system in the UK is widely open for abuse and become incentive for people who could work but do not work.

Those who genuinely in need are taken care by either the family, charity or the state. But money has never been given away.

You will not see people cheating on benefit system. No one be able to travel worldwide using taxpayer's money while taken care by the state, no on will be able to lead an exclusive life, sublet their council house, noone buy a house on heavily discounted price subsidized using taxpayer's money using the money that they never earn.

jonesMUFCforever

Has anybody seen ALED the OP???????????

Either he has gone to Germany (LOL) or he was having us on.

Not a good troll story either IMO.

chrissie57

adindas wrote: »

And what do you see happen in Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia ?? Is there any people dying of starvation ??

Human has a social nature and therefore will be willing to help the people in need. But the current system in the UK is widely open for abuse and become incentive for people who could work but do not work.

Those who genuinely in need are taken care by either the family, charity or the state. But money has never been given away.

You will not see people cheating on benefit system. No one be able to travel worldwide using taxpayer's money while taken care by the state, no on will be able to lead an exclusive life, sublet their council house, noone buy a house on heavily discounted price subsidized using taxpayer's money using the money that they never earn.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20111024-306837.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/11/singapore-poverty-spotlight-20131178362669442.html

http://feedinghk.org/hunger-stats/

adindas

And your point is ?
Keep in mind hunger is not the same with die of starvation. The fact that some people scrounging rubbish happen everywhere including in Britain. But this is not because of no help is available but because of mental illness and they do not seek help. Go to city center in London in the evening you might find one of them.

I quote from your link.

"At the Seniors Activity Centre, where we met Madam See, Peace-Connect provides meals for 50 cents each - the rest of the cost is subsidised by the Kampong Glam Citizens' Consultative Committee - from Mondays to Fridays"

Also in Singapore there are a lot of food banks. You just need to turn up if you are hungry and in need, you will be taken care. But no one will be given cash. Noone die of starvation

Where the social system work in Singapore. No one is cheating, No one will be able to do exclusive holiday using taxpayer's money, no one will be able to lead an exclusive life, sublet their council house, noone will be able to buy a house on heavily discounted price subsidized using taxpayer's money using the money that they never earn

chrissie57 wrote: »

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20111024-306837.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/11/singapore-poverty-spotlight-20131178362669442.html

http://feedinghk.org/hunger-stats/

DCFC79

jonesMUFCforever wrote: »

Has anybody seen ALED the OP???????????

Either he has gone to Germany (LOL) or he was having us on.

Not a good troll story either IMO.

I saw him going for a run, funny thing was there were some suits running behind him, they looked like they knew each other and were playing a game but who knows.