Putting an island over under floor heating

vansboy

when you planned the Ikea kitchen, if you used their planner, it does constantly remind whoever is using the system, that some units require securing if they are free standing.

As mentioned above, heavy worktops may keep it in place, without additional security, especially if you ahve a breakfast bar overhang, which you could fit legs too, for added stability.

You mention the washing machine being part of the island, this may make things a little more insecure, though, when it's in use, so would need to also be taken into consideration. Could it go in another unit instead perhaps??

VB

phill99

You have probably just invalidated any warranty as units, and particularly appliances should not go on top of u/f heating

arbrighton

So it is not the UH installer at fault if you employed them separately to the kitchen designer/ installation.

Was the kitchen design done and available to them when they were installing? Did you discuss your plans for the room with them?

My UH goes throughout my kitchen, under units and all. THe rest of the bodges they made well, let's not even go there....

arbrighton

phill99 wrote: »

You have probably just invalidated any warranty as units, and particularly appliances should not go on top of u/f heating

Why then was my kitchen firm quite happy to install over UH?

Not a DIY shed btw

phill99

But did your kitchen installer install the uf heating?

madeinireland_2

Isn't this an agrument for completing the tiling of the floor and any underfloor heating AFTER the rest of the kitchen is installed?

A serious question as I'm about to embark on a kitchen installation which will include an island and UFH and really at this point feel that's the best way to go.

rustyboy21

The job is done now, so unless you can afford to rip out everything and do it the right way, then you need to find an alternative way as a compromise.

What is stopping you getting the brackets cemented onto the floor tiles, with some sort of strong glue/cement. They can then get screwed into the units and keep them in place. No issue then of bursting any pipework in the floor.

With regards to heat build up under the units, why not fit some air vents into the kick boards, which will dissipate any heat build up. They would look like kick board fan heaters. You would only need a couple.

Instead of all the hassle of who didn't do what correctly, for a few quid, you get it sorted.

theonlywayisup

We have underfloor heating throughout with limestone on top. Our kitchen is huge and we didn't previously have an island but one was added a few years ago. It sounds similar to yours, the unit carcasses are on legs and the worktop is granite. Nothing is fixed to the floor, it was simply a case of the units placed where we wanted them and the doors hung etc. Then the granite on the top. It is substantial, the unit carcasses are solid and probably would need two people to lift them. It isn't going anywhere and in 2-3 years hasn't moved a millimetre.

Furts

I expect rosie383 has already weighed up one fundamental, but I will add it just in case. With retro fit ufh one needs to consider where is the insulation and is the heat going down or up? Is the existing floor concrete oer timber? Then what is over the heating to protect the pipes/wires?

A scenario can be floor tiles over ufh, then a washing machine, or dryer, gets placed and the tiles crack or loosen, either soon or over time.

Put another way ufh is no different to a conventional system with radiators - it needs design, and thought, with consideration to pipe layout and centres, before it is installed.

rosie383

A wee update. Dh spoke to the builder and the UF heating guys didn't put it where the units are going to go. So I was jumping the gun a little bit.
As for the island, the guy who is doing the tiling and helping us to fit the kitchen is confident about doing something with wooden battens plus the island fixing brackets and some strong silicone. He is experienced so I trust him. And I'm not intending to store foodstuffs in the island anyway so hopefully should be okay. Also spoke to IKEA and there is no problem with installing the units over underfloor heating so the warranty shouldn't be a problem. I hasten to add that I haven't examined the small print myself as yet but the guy we spoke to is a bit is a kitchen nerd who has worked there for years and seems to know what he is talking about.
I will of course, read it for myself.