Help for prisoner on remand!

nicechap

ljonski wrote: »

I have been told that the police got a statement off somebody yesterday, that wasn't actually there at the time, but who owns the property where the incident took place.
If property was damaged, interviewing the owner is reasonable. However this is just hearsay so why are you telling us?

There is evidence that a crime may have taken place. However i have seen the area and there was evidence to suggest that no crime was committed.

This doesn't make sense to me. Do your injuries not constitute evidence?

However this has been cleaned up now by me, but i hope photos were taken whilst i was in hospital . It appears that the only real evidence for a crime was her confession.

How would you know this if you haven't spoken to her since the incident?

However 2 years ago she confessed to a non existant crime that was still investigated. When she confessed on both occasions, she was in psychosis and not in a competent state to defend herself..

For all i know she may not have a Solicitor and have waived her rights.
If she has capacity then that's her right, if she doesn't have full capacity then she will get an appropriate adult to help her understand

The evidence i have are text messages sent to me. However the phone that they were sent on has disappeared and may have been destroyed.
Copy and paste them all into an email now so as to reduce the chance of editing/ loosing them

Although she is known to have mental health problems,apart from her GP she does not seem to have a Mental health worker though she is on anti psychotic medication.
She may have, her medical condition(s) are her private business and you are not entitled to know what treatment plans she has if she chooses not to share elements with you. I would doubt she is not known to MHU if she is on regular anti-psychotic meds

Hope this helps.

Savvy_Sue

TBagpuss wrote: »

You could write to the Governor of the prison where sh is being held to express your concerns.

You could also try phoning the chaplaincy service there, or writing to them.

Guest101

ljonski wrote: »

The person was only arrested on suspicion of a crime. The Police told me that it was so that her mental health could be assessed. - Everyone is arrested on 'suspicion' of a crime, even if it was witnessed by 10,000 people.
I was there as well as people from the emergency services who i am sure realised that the person was in a psychosis. - you couldn't know what they witnessed or what their impression of it was. I fully expected them to be released into a mental health unit for a continuation of their treatment.
As i have stated i have not made a statement and a lot of evidence has been disposed of and no request was made to the contrary. - Well you need to go and make a statement...
I can only assume that experts have inspected the scene and taken photos. I am now slightly concerned that if my phone is lost, then some of this evidence will be lost also. - Well you should make a copy and give it with your statement.
The main concern for me is that she receives adequate mental health care and i am not certain that prison is the right place for her, as she has not been charged- as far as i am aware and nor whether she is getting adequate mental health treatment there. - She's suspected of, presumably, a violent crime. She will have been assessed and prison will have been the correct choice, you may not agree with that, but there are procedures for this

Plus also because of their issues, i really can't be sure that they are able to ask the right questions or request the right help. This is why i am thinking that someone with expert knowledge could advocate for her.

That's what her solicitor is for...

.j.e.j

LKRDN_Morgan wrote: »

This is all very confusing. You need to speak to police as a witness and not as a concerned friend (sorry I'm just assuming that's what you are) as they won't tell you anything.

It is confusing when you're being drip-fed disparate bits of information, much of which is contradictory.

Hope he is able to get things sorted, anyway.

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

ljonski wrote: »

I have been told that the police got a statement off somebody yesterday, that wasn't actually there at the time, but who owns the property where the incident took place. There is evidence that a crime may have taken place. However i have seen the area and there was evidence to suggest that no crime was committed. However this has been cleaned up now by me, but i hope photos were taken whilst i was in hospital . It appears that the only real evidence for a crime was her confession. However 2 years ago she confessed to a non existant crime that was still investigated. When she confessed on both occasions, she was in psychosis and not in a competent state to defend herself..

For all i know she may not have a Solicitor and have waived her rights. The evidence i have are text messages sent to me. However the phone that they were sent on has disappeared and may have been destroyed.

Although she is known to have mental health problems,apart from her GP she does not seem to have a Mental health worker though she is on anti psychotic medication.

I'm guessing that this friend isn't the only one in this story with mentwl health issues?

How did you manage to lose this magical phone of justice? Go get it back or did the authorities pinch it to set up your friend?

In short, she'll be getting better help than you could possibly provide by the sounds of things so mind your own business.

penguingirl

Everyone in prison should have a screening assessment by someone in the prison in-reach mental health team (normally a nurse, but the team will also have a psychiatrist, probably a psychologist and sometimes other professionals such as social workers or occupational therapists). She will also have been asked by the custody sergeant in the police station if she has a history of mental health problems or is on any medication. As she is on medication she should be flagged up pretty quickly in prison, but that doesn't necesarily mean she will be transferred to a mental health hospital. Women's prisons typically have better mental health input than men's prisons and they may have a hospital wing. What I'm basically saying is there are lots of steps in the criminal justice system at which her mental health will be considered, and there are systems of support to manage these (although sadly these are not always as comprehensive as we'd like, but that is also true of hospital and community mental health care)

hollydays

If you know the time and the date, ring the police and ask if they can locate the incident and give you the name of the officer dealing. Ask who is that officers sargeant , and ring and discuss with him if you think this is necessary ( you do).You'll need to be concise and factual to be taken seriously.