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MSE News: You'll need a TV licence to use iPlayer from 1 September this year

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  • ajbell
    ajbell Posts: 1,151 Forumite
    Reminds me of this.


    Drebin has asked Ted Olsen, a scientist at the police laboratory, to analyse a rock that had been hurled by criminals through a window.

    Drebin: “Where did it come from?”

    Olsen: “That’s very interesting – I have a theory about that. As you know, Frank, billions of years ago, our Earth was a molten mass. But for some reason, not understood by scientists, the Earth cooled, forming a crust – a hard, igneous shell. That’s what we scientists call ‘rock’.”
    4kWp, South facing, 16 x phono solar panels, Solis inverter, Lincolnshire.
  • bobbly
    bobbly Posts: 45 Forumite
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    Swipe wrote: »
    I'm afraid, you only have yourself to blame by giving silly answers to a software program that is only concerned with the last 12 months. Did you get it rectified in the end?
    Not sure why you're afraid, but I don't think that's my fault at all, because it didn't say it was only concerned about the last 12 months! It's not the consumer's responsibility to double-guess what the intention behind a question is, and then deliberately give an untruthful answer accordingly (as if it were actually asking a different question).

    It also didn't tell me the licence would only be valid for 2 months - not until after I'd paid for it (not sure how they even decided that 2 months was the appropriate validity period).

    Poor usability and lack of testing by their web application developers. I'm still waiting for a response from them (says it takes 3 days).
  • HarryR1
    HarryR1 Posts: 7 Forumite
    :rotfl:
    I never use iPlayer for anything as everything the BBC produces is garbage and has been for many years. I do have forced app on my games console and it's possible to visit the service with my computer and phone, but they will have to prove I do or don't. Until they add a verification system to iPlayer, any enforcement bullies from Capita will immedietly get the door closed in their faces without a word from me.

    Don't ever tell them anything, especially not you name. They also have no authority or right to enter your property or check any device you own. They are salesman who get a commission for escalation to court or purchase of a license. They work on vague admissions by proxy which is why you should not utter a word except a very specific order to !!!! off.

    Until they can enforce it, they have nothing to work with except bullying tactics. This is just a scare tactic for the weak willed and easily manipulated. The BBC are parasites.
  • HarryR1
    HarryR1 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Maybe they will be given powers to search your computer.

    A way round this is that ISP's pass on £1 to the BBC per month from every internet subscription to cover the cost of iPlayer - they could then just keep iPlayer licence free.

    They will never be given power to search any personal device. Also any computer or phone is a potential gateway to the iPlayer as it's a web service that only requires a URL to access. From there it's open access for all.

    The only way they can enforce it is to have a verification system on the site but they won't do that because they know a lot of people won't bother signing up to it to avoid the fee.
  • Marvqn1
    Marvqn1 Posts: 641 Forumite
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    HarryR1 wrote: »
    :rotfl:
    I never use iPlayer for anything as everything the BBC produces is garbage and has been for many years.

    What broadcasters do you think produce quality programmes?
  • KingS6
    KingS6 Posts: 400 Forumite
    Marvqn1 wrote: »
    What broadcasters do you think produce quality programmes?

    Broadcasters don't all "produce" programmes as in produce them in-house . Some are out sourced or sold to that network. Some broadcasters quite literally just broadcast.
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,477 Forumite
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    edited 3 August 2016 at 10:54PM
    bobbly wrote: »
    Not sure why you're afraid, but I don't think that's my fault at all, because it didn't say it was only concerned about the last 12 months! It's not the consumer's responsibility to double-guess what the intention behind a question is, and then deliberately give an untruthful answer accordingly (as if it were actually asking a different question).

    It also didn't tell me the licence would only be valid for 2 months - not until after I'd paid for it (not sure how they even decided that 2 months was the appropriate validity period).

    Poor usability and lack of testing by their web application developers. I'm still waiting for a response from them (says it takes 3 days).

    It's not a fault - it's intentional.

    The idea is that they have you admitting to watching without a Licence, so they backdate your new Licence to account for it.

    Their policy is to backdate for a maximum of 11 months under circumstances which suggest unlicensed watching of TV broadcasts.

    I would phone them to sort it out. Most companies do not deal well with eMail/Website/Chat enquiries.
  • VisionMan
    VisionMan Posts: 1,585 Forumite
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    HarryR1 wrote: »
    I never use iPlayer for anything as everything the BBC produces is garbage and has been for many years.
    The BBC is generally regarded as the finest TV broadcaster in the world and has for the last 50 years been at the forefront of new technology.
    HarryR1 wrote: »
    Until they can enforce it, they have nothing to work with except bullying tactics.
    Not at all, Netflix and Amazon manage it.[/QUOTE]

    This is a change that was badly needed in todays 21st century digital age and a change thats long over due. Don't want to buy a TV licence? Fine, just don't consume any BBC TV content. Not that hard.
  • bobbly
    bobbly Posts: 45 Forumite
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    It's not a fault - it's intentional.

    The idea is that they have you admitting to watching without a Licence, so they backdate your new Licence to account for it.

    Their policy is to backdate for a maximum of 11 months under circumstances which suggest unlicensed watching of TV broadcasts.

    I would phone them to sort it out. Most companies do not deal well with eMail/Website/Chat enquiries.
    It is a fault in their process, because otherwise the question would have been, "How long have you been watching TV without a licence?" rather than "Have you watched TV before?"
  • Cornucopia
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    Yes, I can see that.

    The BBC is surprisingly bad at this kind of thing. A bit like an old lady with nunchucks.
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