PIP SDP and Housing Benefit?

paragon909

damino wrote: »

Thank you for that brain dump but it doesn't contradict anything I said and it doesn't answer my question.

You have a real cheek and a horrible attitude my friend... You come to a public forum and ask for help and advice, You get the advice and dismiss it as nonsense basically!

Go to the .gov website and you will see...

https://www.gov.uk/pip/what-youll-get

damino

paragon909 wrote: »

You have a real cheek and a horrible attitude my friend... You come to a public forum and ask for help and advice, You get the advice and dismiss it as nonsense basically!

Go to the .gov website and you will see...

https://www.gov.uk/pip/what-youll-get

Nothing at that link answers my question, you haven't understood my question.

paragon909

damino wrote: »

Nothing at that link answers my question, you haven't understood my question.

The link was to demonstrate there is no lower rate of PIP....

If you claim PIP and are awarded you are entitled to SDP if you claim income related benefits such as JSA, ESA or IS. You are entitled to SDP if no one cares for you and you live a lone. So if you transfer from DLA to PIP and are awarded standard care of daily living component YOU WILL BE ENTITLED TO SDP... It's really not that hard to understand.

Either you are taking the !!!! or you don't understand... You're starting to annoy me now.

poppy12345

damino wrote: »

There are two rates of PIP care, higher and lower. That's a well known fact all over google. I shouldn't need to show you that there are two rates of care in PIP, see the first google result to a govt website e.g. https://www.gov.uk/pip/what-youll-get it says there are two rates of care in PIP.

I'm asking a technical question here. Whether i'd be entitled to SDP if I were to get the lower rate of PIP and i'm asking for a govt textual source to back that up. (not your subjective story or non govt websites) Particularly as I have an email from benefits gov uk saying not.

Paragon is right. There's no such thing as lower and higher rate of PIP. It's standard and Enhanced. I also recieve Standard for both components. I'm also in support group for ESA AND recieve SDP.

damino

paragon909 wrote: »

The link was to demonstrate there is no lower rate of PIP....

If you claim PIP and are awarded you are entitled to SDP if you claim income related benefits such as JSA, ESA or IS. You are entitled to SDP if no one cares for you and you live a lone. So if you transfer from DLA to PIP and are awarded standard care of daily living component YOU WILL BE ENTITLED TO SDP... It's really not that hard to understand.

Either you are taking the !!!! or you don't understand... You're starting to annoy me now.

yeah PIP Has two rates, standard and enhanced, the standard is a lower rate and the enhanced is a higher rate. I'll use the proper terminology since it cause some confusion when I said lower and higher.

And what i'm asking is do you have a link to an official Govt page that says that even with the standard rate of PIP, you will get SDP? i.e. a Govt link that says what you wrote there.

damino

An update

I spoke to the ESA people, as they have information about the SDP. They said that the criteria for SDP for people on ESA, may not be online anymore, but on their DWP internal system (which is called "find"), there's an article on Severe Disability Premium, which states criteria as

-Living Alone
-On Income Related ESA
-Nobody claiming carers allowance for you
-Getting Care component of DLA middle or higher. OR PIP

So that seems to be the best we have at the moment, their internal system and nothing online.

nannytone_2

which is exactly what people have been telling you.

if you don't believe people without a link, then either don't bother to ask on a forum or find the information yourself

Ames

What you're calling lower rate PIP is actually called Standard rate PIP. It's equivalent to middle rate DLA, and qualifies you for the severe disability premium.

If you google the rates of both benefits you'll see that standard PIP is the same money as middle rate DLA. So it's clear that they're the same.

Standard rate PIP also gives an entitlement to carer's allowance, the same as middle rate DLA.

Basically:

Lower rate DLA = nothing under PIP, it's just been scrapped completely.

Middle rate DLA = standard rate PIP, same money, same entitlement to carer's allowance and severe disability premium.

Higher rate DLA = enhanced rate PIP, same money, same entitlement to carer's allowance and severe disability premium.

damino

Has SDP always required ESA?

I notice this link doesn't mention anything about ESA
http://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/severe-disability-premium

and neither does this one
expand "Housing benefit if you have a disability"
http://m.england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/housing_benefit_and_local_housing_allowance/what_is_housing_benefit/housing_benefit_if_you_are_under_35

Whereas what i've heard on the phone is about ESA being a requirement, which isn't mentioned on either of those two links.

Are those two links wrong?

(And the reason why I have often asked for a govt link, is because in case one needs to prove a point to the govt you can't say nannybunny on moneysavingexpert forum says so, one can't even quote joe blogs on benefits AT ..... gov.uk) It's entirely reasonable to ask for such a link and not just somebody's word for it, especially when somebody from the govt says something else.

nannytone_2

ESA isn't a requirement for the 1 bed LHA rate.

it is the SDP that is the qualifying benefit., and that can only be given with a qualifying disability benefit.

it can be along side ESA, JSA , income support,incapacity benefit. etc.

SDP is paid to those who have a low enough income to be entitled to any amount of income related benefit who receive a qualifying disability benefit

why do you think that ESA is the only qualifying benefit?