Orange Squash double strength con?

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    jon81uk wrote: »
    Except the sweetness and flavour will be roughly the same between the value and the regular own-brand. Its just the own-brand uses more real fruit and less flavourings, as actual juice is expensive.

    The fact it is double concentrated doesn't matter, that just relates to how much water is in the bottle versus how much you need to add.



    This is what I'd always assumed. I like the idea that my glass of squash has more fruit in it than otherwise, but to think it had any fruit in it at all is a bit of a revelation to me- I'd always assumed the bulk of it was sweetener and a few man made flavors and at best had an essence of actual orange. Though if there is 10% of any fruit in it, by the time you dilute it I'm not that far off.
  • jon81uk wrote: »
    Except the sweetness and flavour will be roughly the same between the value and the regular own-brand. Its just the own-brand uses more real fruit and less flavourings, as actual juice is expensive.

    The fact it is double concentrated doesn't matter, that just relates to how much water is in the bottle versus how much you need to add.

    im saying it isnt the same strength. value squash tastes as strong as regular squash. the sweetness and flavour isnt roughly the same. It tastes weaker, it looks weaker, it is weaker.
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    I can see the headlines now:

    Value Range implicated in "not quite as good" shock!!!
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  • Cornucopia wrote: »
    I can see the headlines now:

    Value Range implicated in "not quite as good" shock!!!

    its not about if its as good or not.

    Im saying its better to get true double strength and it will be twice as cheap as buying value. isnt hard
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    Ah okay. Have you tried all the value brands - they may not all be the same.

    Also, did you try High Juice - it's really very good. Could be better value than your standard stuff?
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  • edited 12 July 2016 at 2:23PM
    jon81ukjon81uk Forumite
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    edited 12 July 2016 at 2:23PM
    im saying it isnt the same strength. value squash tastes as strong as regular squash. the sweetness and flavour isnt roughly the same. It tastes weaker, it looks weaker, it is weaker.

    Then don't buy the value brand. It clearly says on the label it contains less real fruit so you can make an informed decision to buy the regular brand instead.

    Again the fact it is double concetrate has nothing to do with the value vs own brand.

    Some examples.

    Robinsons double concentrate, 20% fruit http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=268344846
    Robinsons single concentrate 10% fruit http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=254854147
    Tesco double concentrate 26% fruit http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=263588333
    Tesco Value double concentrate 11% fruit http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=267624930

    So the winner here is the regular Tesco own brand as it has the most real fruit, even more than Robinsons. But note than the double concentrate Robinsons contains twice as much real fruit as the single concentrate, meaning once diluted, they make the same glass of squash.
    You can of course also get high juice squash, which is single concentrate and 50% juice http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=253476763 but of course is even more expensive.

    Before they introduced double concentrate squash about five years ago, the value stuff still contained half the fruit content of the regular own brand.
  • jon81uk wrote: »
    Then don't buy the value brand.

    Of course i wont why feel the need to tell me that
    jon81uk wrote: »
    Again the fact it is double concetrate has nothing to do with the value vs own brand.

    Yes it does for the reason i mentioned.

    I dont get why you are arguing. Im just saying all other double strength squash is twice as strong as value "double strength" so its better value to buy that as you use less so its cheaper in long run.
  • jon81uk wrote: »

    Before they introduced double concentrate squash about five years ago, the value stuff still contained half the fruit content of the regular own brand.

    Not true...
  • jon81ukjon81uk Forumite
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    I dont get why you are arguing. Im just saying all other double strength squash is twice as strong as value "double strength" so its better value to buy that as you use less so its cheaper in long run.

    You don't use less regular squash compared to value though.

    Tesco Orange Squash https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=263588333
    Shake well and dilute to taste. Dilute 1 part squash to 9 parts water.
    Dilute with extra water for toddlers.

    Tesco Value Orange Squash https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=267624930
    Shake well and dilute to taste (1 part squash to 9 parts water). Dilute with
    extra water for toddlers.

    The instructions for both are 1 part squash to nine parts water. The value squash just contains less fruit and that is why it is cheaper.
  • edited 13 July 2016 at 10:24AM
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    edited 13 July 2016 at 10:24AM
    jon81uk wrote: »
    The instructions for both are 1 part squash to nine parts water. The value squash just contains less fruit and that is why it is cheaper.

    To cut to the chase, I think the OP's issue is that in his experience they don't taste the same - he thinks the value brand tastes weaker. And when he checked, he thought he had found confirmation in the difference in fruit content (when, in fact, that is only part of the story).

    I think we've established:

    - Value brands sometimes don't taste the same, or even "as good" as the standard or premium options.

    - The flavour of Orange squash is not simply about the proportion of fruit juice, but also a question of other flavourings (including fruit pulp) and sweeteners.

    - Manufacturers are not going to stop playing with the concentration of squashes as there are both economic and marketing benefits to doing so. Robinsons Squash'd anyone?
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