Annual gas safety check - failure

thesaint

booksurr wrote: »

spare tyre presence of, condition of, or access to, is not a testable item. Presumably your garage owner wanted you to scam the customer for a retest fee and a new tyre fitting??

Section 2.12 - Spare wheels and tyres are not inspected.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-parts-checked-at-an-mot/car-parts-checked-at-an-mot

This inspection applies to
Tyres fitted to the road wheels only. The vehicle presenter should be informed when it is noticed that there is a defective tyre on a spare wheel.
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_410.htm

You are a bit late to the party.
I was trying to give an example, it wasn't a real-life situation.
I am going back 15+ years, so forgive my memory.

We didn't ever charge re-test fees even when we were perfectly entitled to do so. We also never had the facilities to do tyres.

A swing and a miss on both occasions. Sorry.

Smodlet

emmastevens, any updates on your spare tyre, I mean, boiler?

bris

Rodders53 wrote: »

Errmmm.... The legally required label that Gas Safe fitters MUST fix to the appliance etc.,... ????
https://www.gassafetyshop.co.uk/products/Gas-Safe-Immediately-Dangerous-ID-Labels-Triangles

People would be pretty darned stupid to ignore that? And if that stupid/determined they would likely reconnect at the capped off meter regardless of the consequences.

BTW Pedantic I may be being but if it is illegal for anyone to take the cap off, how is this going to ever be fixed? :rotfl: as anyone includes a Gas Safe tech :eek:.

I have attached dozens of these notices to boilers, fires and cookers and to date only a couple have not been ripped off because they are just an eyesore. You are right though people are stupid, but there is a big difference between someone turning on an isolation valve and physically getting the tools out to reconnected a gas pipe or un cap a meter.


Turning on an isolation valve is not illegal, tampering with a gas fitting is.

bris

thesaint wrote: »

Are stating that once duct tape is on the flue it is dangerous no matter what is underneath?

I'm stating no one knows whats underneath and it's illegal to seal a flue with duct tape. But it's not exactly rocket science to figure out that they wouldn't need duct tape if it was secured with the approved bracket or fixings now is it?

thesaint

bris wrote: »

I'm stating no one knows whats underneath and it's illegal to seal a flue with duct tape. But it's not exactly rocket science to figure out that they wouldn't need duct tape if it was secured with the approved bracket or fixings now is it?

If you can't see, and you have to fail it, then that's fair enough.
You don't seem to want to say that though.

Smodlet

Ah, bris. What a misnomer is "common sense" when it is anything but.

thesaint

Smodlet wrote: »

Ah, bris. What a misnomer is "common sense" when it is anything but.

Rules and regulations are there to dispense with common sense for the most part.

Before I passed my "course" to be an MOT tester, the guy I used to watch do them at the testing station would fail cars with "Offside/nearside wiper blade split".

It was only when I did the course that I realised that that in itself wasn't a failure.

That's why I am getting at whether the presence of duct tape is a fail, or is the engineer making assumptions.
I wasn't allowed to make assumptions, as failing a car "just to be safe" wasn't an option.

Smodlet

Fortunately for most of us, those without a mains gas supply being the exception, it seems gas regulations are somewhat more stringent than those pertaining to spare tyres, which have nothing whatever to do with gas boilers.

Norman_Castle

emmastevens wrote: »

I wanted to know if flue wrapped around by duct tape is serious, because I don't want the council turning around and saying it's ok and not dangerous.

Back to the point of the thread, the council will not have the option to decide what is safe. It is up to a gas safe registered safety checker. If it is faulty the landlord is obliged to fix it.

On one of my checks the tester insisted the (fire) door of the cupboard where the boiler is sited needed 6" x 9" vents in it, top and bottom. After struggling to cut the first one he decided it was fine with just one door vent. In the following few years another tester covered the vent with gaffer tape.

emmastevens

Hi, sorry Still had migraine. Not related to my current problem.
Thank you guys again. You can stop now. Quick update then. The Works clerk came over this morning, looked at the boiler & flue, agreed that it shouldn't have been taped, said
look liked it was a temporary job, that never got fixed. Inside does like flue parts have been mixed together, outside is ok, will find out why it was left like that and why it was never picked up before. Reassured me that there was no CO leaking, and that if it had, my CO detector whould have picked it up. Said I'd get a like for like combi, considering me & my building got it back in early 2003's and I'd get a new bathroom radiator too, since that was rusty.

Asked how long all this would like, he said about within 10 Days, Asbestos check has to be done first, and all that.

I guess I can't & shouldn't complain.

So thank you once again. It was good to rant. And we can close this thread.