Finding lost family, maybe, or more likely an infant death

clairec79

BTW my dad didn't know of this sister, he did think though that his mother had had two children before her marriage, a girl (who he knew of as his eldest sister) and a stillborn boy - then we discovered this third child

Brighty

Thanks everyone.
Need to dig out the birth cert and start a search then i think. Can't remember the details at the mo, it's been a few years since i found the cert, just popped into my head today to start looking into it. Didn't look into it at the time, as losing both parents and wife having baby 2 in the space of 2 months meant for a busy emotional time.
Birth was late 30's and pretty sure it was Wales (eldest and possibly middle boy was Wales, dad was England). Pretty sure it named both parents and same surnames, so already married. I'll dig it out

Thanks again

Brighty

Grumpelstiltskin

OK Brighty If it was either England or Wales this is the site you can use to find a death.


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/


To check yourself it's working look for the birth once you have the certificate in front of you then starting with the same date as the birth look for a matching death.


Any problems just yell.

TonyMMM

If it was a Birth Certificate, then the child wasn't stillborn. Stillborn children are not registered with other births, and don't appear in the birth indexes ( there is a special Stillbirth Register, which is not accessible on-line)

I would look at the death indexes in the area first to see if the child died as an infant.

If you can't find any death record, and an adoption is likely, then have a look at the birth certificate you have to see when it was issued. If it was at the time of registration or shortly afterwards then it may be worth ordering a new copy of the birth certificate to see if the entry has ever been amended with the word "adopted" in the margin (assuming the birth was after 1927).

Brighty

Grumpelstiltskin wrote: »

OK Brighty If it was either England or Wales this is the site you can use to find a death.


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/


To check yourself it's working look for the birth once you have the certificate in front of you then starting with the same date as the birth look for a matching death.


Any problems just yell.

Thanks again all, and thankyou for that link Grumpelstiltskin.
20 mins on that site (whilst i'm supposed to be working) and i've solved the mystery, without even having the birth cert or being 100% on the first name from memory, or many other details (my memory is shocking)

Found my dads birth on there, born England 1944, which i knew.

Using his mums maiden name, found middle brother, also England, 1941

Then on to the eldest brother, born Wales, 1935

Knowing his town of birth and i found the sisters birth, Wales, 1932

Now knowing her full name, year and town of birth, i look for deaths

Sure enough, there it was, 1933 age 1, case closed

Sad really, but at least i know and can tell my brother. i'll see if i can get a copy of the death cert to add to the family files, should also give me a cause of death too i assume.

Thankyou all for your help, i may try and discover more of my dads lineage, as my mum said she tried years ago but it was a dead end before my dads dad, maybe worth trying again

Brighty

DigForVictory

Congratulations, and thank you for coming back to let us know.
I hope your brother takes the news gently.

Very glad to add the website to my toolkit too.

clairec79

The death certificate will give cause of death

Mojisola

Brighty wrote: »

Thankyou all for your help, i may try and discover more of my dads lineage, as my mum said she tried years ago but it was a dead end before my dads dad, maybe worth trying again

I was very excited when I managed to find, through court records, the father of an illegitimate relative, thinking that I'd broken down a wall and would to able to trace a new branch of the family, only to find that the father was also illegitimate. So far, I haven't found any way of identifying his father.

That might be the case for your grandfather as well.

Brighty

Been having a play and think i've found the road block re: dads dad, found his death cert, 1957 England and birth 1904 Wales, but the mother line is blank. I'll have to see if i already have the birth cert in my parents document box, if not, order one.
I vaguely remember my mum saying she found out that the mother was an unmarried servant at some big house and that the babys 2nd middle name was the surname of the family in thw big house.
Guess i have some sleuthing to do

Brighty

candlelight_2013

With regard to the name, that is more than likely. It was one way of showing what the family surname of the father was.

Good luck

Candlelightx