General Election - Lib Dem Government?

TrickyTree83

The possibility of this

"An early general election can only be called under the Act if either a motion (as worded in section 2(2) of the Act) that there shall be an early parliamentary general election is passed by the House of Commons with at least two thirds in favour of the motion; or if a motion of no confidence (as worded in section 2(4) of the Act) is passed by the House of Commons and the House does not pass a motion of confidence (as worded in section 2(5) of the Act) in the Government or an alternative Government within 14 days. Aside from these triggers there is no way to replace the Government through an early General Election."

And this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-result-lib-dems-remain-liberal-democrats-live-policy-stay-leave-a7103186.html

In particular this section.

"Leader Tim Farron said on Saturday night that he would be “clear and unequivocal” with voters that if elected it would set aside the referendum result and keep Britain in the EU."

It appears to me that if a general election was called for whatever reason that the Lib Dem's may gather enough Remain voters to actually become a majority party and overrule the EU referendum result.

rubuhoeikanaika

It would be churlish of me to point out that many voters might be skeptical of a Lib Dem clear and unequivocal pledge.

kinger101

I agree a general election is probably the only realistic mechanism of setting aside the referendum result, but I cannot see the LibDems have a realistic chance of forming a majority government. I think it's more likely to just anger the leave camp into voting in a majority UKIP government.

cells

labour and SNP both putting stay on the manifesto and forming a joint majority sounds more likely. needs labour to get its house in order.

wotsthat

I think the most likely outcome of an early election is a massive Tory win on a platform of enacting the results of the referendum. They're a party united and it'll be years before anyone is foolish enough to risk their career being undone by Europe. The disaffected who went to UKIP will now vote Tory.

TrickyTree83

I'm not as certain as all of you that the vote would continue to split across party lines in light of everything that has happened.

In a new GE it would appear a vote for the Lib Dem's is a vote to Remain. People are so angry with the result I see it as probable and the leave vote being split between the tories and UKIP.

mrginge

So on the one hand the remainers don't want to risk the economy by leaving, but on the other they would flock over to the lib dems or labour who are both economically incompetent.

I think not.

Crashy_Time

wotsthat wrote: »

I think the most likely outcome of an early election is a massive Tory win on a platform of enacting the results of the referendum. They're a party united and it'll be years before anyone is foolish enough to risk their career being undone by Europe. The disaffected who went to UKIP will now vote Tory.

They are in power NOW, they need to enact NOW. Not doing so will lead to big results for UKIP, as they will be the only party that can be trusted with the democratic decision of the people.

TrickyTree83

mrginge wrote: »

So on the one hand the remainers don't want to risk the economy by leaving, but on the other they would flock over to the lib dems or labour who are both economically incompetent.

I think not.

A Remain voter might feel that leaving the EU is more economically irresponsible than voting in a Labour / Lib Dem coalition or even a Lib Dem majority.

What if Corbyn is replaced and Labour stand on a ticket of overturning the EU referendum result?

This whole situation just occurred to me today and I'm genuinely worried now that this could happen. If somehow the HoC manages to get 2/3 of parliament to call an election we could be in for some horrendously rocky times in domestic politics.

kinger101

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

A Remain voter might feel that leaving the EU is more economically irresponsible than voting in a Labour / Lib Dem coalition or even a Lib Dem majority.

What if Corbyn is replaced and Labour stand on a ticket of overturning the EU referendum result?

This whole situation just occurred to me today and I'm genuinely worried now that this could happen. If somehow the HoC manages to get 2/3 of parliament to call an election we could be in for some horrendously rocky times in domestic politics.

Too many remote possibilities here;

(a) vote of no confidence in government;
(b) leader of a major party being appointed on a "stay" campaign
(c) parliamentary majority from single party of coalition with a stay campaign

(a) won't happen because the conservatives won't vote their own government down
(b) unlikely to happen because most MPs supported the referendum anyway, and
(c) leave campaigners are more likely to unite IMO as the "stay" camp is too widely distributed (some Con, most Lab, LD and SNP).

worried_jim

cells wrote: »

labour and SNP both putting stay on the manifesto and forming a joint majority sounds more likely. needs labour to get its house in order.

I would vote Labour (for the first time, even if JC stays) if this was their election pledge.