Sunderland Nissan Leave voters hope to be bailed out

StevieJ

the_flying_pig wrote: »

I hope we can all agree with that.


If I lived in Boston [Lincs] then frankly I'd have been very tempted to vote out, in fact I probably would have done. Immigration from EE has led to some pretty astonishing changes there, most of them arguably bad, in a very short space of time. What good things has this kind of internationalism brought to Boston? Not all that many [other than the general across the board stuff like the government being able to afford to feed, clothe, educate, care for, etc its population], truth be told.


But Sunderland, with almost zero immigrants & its colossal car-exporting factories, give me effing strength...

3.6% of of the population not born in the UK. I think somewhere soon is going to be aquiring a nickname, not unlike, (in its mockery), those from down the coast. Hartlepool 'The Monkeyhangers'

kabayiri

Sunderland typifies a new political conundrum.

How do you win back large chunks of the country when your political elite are so heavily focussed on the south?

You can call these Northern voters idiots if you wish, but I'm not convinced that insulting works as a campaigning mechanism.

In the past, Labour would bribe the poorer areas, with a viable benefit lifestyle and various makeweight back-to-work schemes (which generally delivered depressingly low results).

So what would Labour do now the slush money isn't there?

Corbyn is still completely unaware of the problems his party faces in the traditional heartlands. He is a dead man walking IMO.

lovinituk

MrsGenerali wrote: »

As my husband would say, What's the Plan?

You voted Leave and that's super dooper awesome, really lovely and I think you're brilliant for that. I can't agree with your democratic decision more. Heck yeah!!!!!

What comes next though? What's the plan?

Already been answered by a few people.

PS - You're much politer as a woman Sorry for your health issues.

Mistermeaner

stator wrote: »

A rebalancing of our economy away from services and towards manufacturing wouldn't be a bad thing.

Great idea - after all we have low energy costs and low labour costs - prerequisites for competitive manufacturing in a global economy. Our edge in competitiveness here will overcome any tarriff premiums we may face vs our EU competitors

If I had billions to invest in manufacturing the UK would be top of my list of places to invest. definitely

HiToAll

stator wrote: »

Of course there's no plan. [STRIKE]No-one controls the markets.

The people voted largely irrespective of what the politicians said.

We are leaving because the people wanted out.

We will have to deal with it.

A rebalancing of our economy away from services and towards manufacturing wouldn't be a bad thing[/STRIKE].

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rubuhoeikanaika

stator wrote: »

A rebalancing of our economy away from services and towards manufacturing wouldn't be a bad thing.

Agree. But it would be better achieved by building up manufacturing (who knows how) than by destroying services.

lovinituk

MrsGenerali wrote: »

[STRIKE]No it hasn't.[/STRIKE]Yes it has.

[STRIKE]What's the plan? You guys are so cool and I love that you won. What is next please?[/STRIKE]



Keep my [STRIKE]OH's[/STRIKE] health out of it please.

(Can't find a thumbs up smilie) I genuinely wish you well with your health, no one deserves that.

stator

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Great idea - after all we have low energy costs and low labour costs - prerequisites for competitive manufacturing in a global economy. Our edge in competitiveness here will overcome any tarriff premiums we may face vs our EU competitors

If I had billions to invest in manufacturing the UK would be top of my list of places to invest. definitely

If the GBP keeps nose diving then UK labour will be cheap.
Mr Osborne may have to scrap his "Living wage" though.
Labour isn't the only thing that matters. Germany still has a large manufacturing base. Half of the equipment in my house (and parked outside it) is made in Germany. Even LIDL sells cheap crap made in Germany when others sell cheap crap made in China.

StevieJ

stator wrote: »

If the GBP keeps nose diving then UK labour will be cheap.
Mr Osborne may have to scrap his "Living wage" though.
Labour isn't the only thing that matters. Germany still has a large manufacturing base. Half of the equipment in my house (and parked outside it) is made in Germany. Even LIDL sells cheap crap made in Germany when others sell cheap crap made in China.

Then again when high inflation strikes it my not seem so generous

jadex

Apparently Lidl heavily uses Greeks in Greece. And pay them €3.50 p/h or even less.
Just because it is from Lidl, it doesn't mean it's Made in Germany.

stator wrote: »

Even LIDL sells cheap crap made in Germany when others sell cheap crap made in China.